On 7/1/07, Res <res@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > NotDashEscaped: You need GnuPG to verify this message > > > OOOT folks :) > > On Sun, 1 Jul 2007, Paul Lesniewski wrote: > > > very happy with Postfix, especially compared to Sendmail (you're > > kidding!). > > We are each different, that's exactly what gives us these choices. > > >> Wietse is rather narrow minded when it comes to certain things, like the > >> way he attacks certain anti-spa/virus programers because they are not in > >> his "in crowd" or do things the way he wants, another reason I shy away > >> from postfix, DJB lost many friends many years ago with that attitude and > >> WV is closely following in those footsteps. > > > > Yeah, I was gonna say you can't go down that road w/out putting DJB at > > the forefront. :-) Perhaps it is a fine line between zealotry and > > making really excellent technical points. > > Perhaps WV trained under DJB :) I'd actually give the silver medal to Sam Varshavchik (Courier). Maybe the gold. > > As do I. However, the point was that that very difference means that, > > just like Sendmail, the more people who can just turn on software > > because it comes pre-installed means that that software is going to be > > much more frequently used than something that you can only get by > > putting together yourself. > > Agreed, but you must then ask why they decide to preconfigure (if you > like) one software over the other, perhaps better the well known, tried > and proven devil that most know. Especially since WV has been on RH's > mailing lists for years, maybe his 'politics' akin to DJB is why. More likely licensing issues, fact that it hasn't been officially maintained for almost 10 years, and highly unconventional design and coding philosphy. > I have found Clauss from Sendmail easy to interact with, and when wanting > a feature, submitted, it's in if it has no adverse affects, if he doesn't > like it, he explains why he rather not do it, rather than WV saying, "no, > I dont like that", arrogance is a big downfall in anything :) Absolutely. The social questions that come up are interesting, and I don't see anyone really address them (or they get ridiculed as being too touchy-feely or something like that) -- authors get a lot of dumb questions, and when you throw in even a reasonably smart one that may not seem in sync with project goals, the author, having long ago tired of all the other ill-thought questions, might easily, or even rudely, laugh at it too. More responsibility needs to be squared on the question askers instead of picking on the easy targets, but it's also very intimidating for the askers to learn enough to know how to even ask the question in a non-offensive way. Tough stuff. > And if you handle or do things to queue files that by design wasn't meant > to happen, Clauss does not attack you, unlike WV. > > > >> Incidently there may be a new qmail release in the future, not by DJB of > >> course, in fact one quetions if he's even still alive. > > > > Huh. > > There are some coders wanting to resurrect it as qmail2, so it is 'out of > the box' ready for todays environment since DJB gave up on it. > ------------------------------------------------------------------------- This SF.net email is sponsored by DB2 Express Download DB2 Express C - the FREE version of DB2 express and take control of your XML. No limits. Just data. Click to get it now. http://sourceforge.net/powerbar/db2/ -- squirrelmail-users mailing list Posting Guidelines: http://www.squirrelmail.org/wiki/MailingListPostingGuidelines List Address: squirrelmail-users@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx List Archives: http://news.gmane.org/thread.php?group=gmane.mail.squirrelmail.user List Archives: http://sourceforge.net/mailarchive/forum.php?forum_id=2995 List Info: https://lists.sourceforge.net/lists/listinfo/squirrelmail-users
