On Thursday, 06 May 2004, at 18:57:56 (-0700), Steve Beattie wrote: > If you wish to be pedantic, I argue that the -bs and -bb options > don't need to exist because they make it easier for a package > distributer to ship a broken srpm *and* they add very little utility > -- essentially an optimization over -ba; i.e. it's a bad > tradeoff. The options --no-deps and --force, while dangererous to an > unknowledgable user, serve important purposes and thus add > utility. The rest of the -b options, combined with --short-circuit, > make the write-test-debug loop go more quickly for packagers, again > adding utility. Complexity that gives power is good. Needless > complexity is not. And I argue that what is "needless" for you may be very useful and important to others. It's entirely possible that your experience with building RPM packages does not include sufficient scenarios when using -bs, for example, is both advantageous and safe. That does not mean, however, that others must not have any such experience. > Obviously, you feel that -bb and -bs add worthwhile utility to > rpm. I disagree. That's your right. However, and no offense is intended here, but you are speaking from a standpoint of lack of relevant experience. I can cite examples of when at least -bs is very useful and does not jeopardize package quality or integrity. So you arguing to the contrary is akin to claiming that a piece of software is 100% secure. Just because you haven't found the vulnerability in the software (or usefulness in the feature, as it were) doesn't mean it's not there. :) Michael -- Michael Jennings (a.k.a. KainX) http://www.kainx.org/ <mej@xxxxxxxxx> n + 1, Inc., http://www.nplus1.net/ Author, Eterm (www.eterm.org) ----------------------------------------------------------------------- "Would you know my name if I saw you in heaven? Would it be the same if I saw you in heaven? I must be strong and carry on, 'cause I know I don't belong here in heaven." -- Eric Clapton, "Tears in Heaven" _______________________________________________ Rpm-list mailing list Rpm-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/rpm-list