Re: RFC-1855, Time, Money, and this email list.

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On Mon, 11 Aug 2003 17:31:38 -0700, ___cliff rayman___ wrote:

> replies at the bottom of an e-mail, require
> users to scroll to read the reply if the entire message does not fit 
> into the view window.
> this is clearly a waste of user time and keystrokes.

If a message starts with a reply at the top, apparently the quote at
the bottom is not needed at all. Or do you want the reader to switch
back and forth between the reply at the top and the quote at the
bottom? I doubt that. If there's nothing particular you refer to,
don't quote anything at all. *But* quotes are important to maintain
context. Many of the supporting subscribers, who read almost every
message on a list and help with multiple problems in several threads
at once, benefit from clever quoting and replies below short quotes.
Else you can lose the overview easily. Complete quotes at the bottom
are not needed, because unless a message is several weeks old, the
reader is likely to still have the older messages in the mail folder
(threading of messages helps here).

> i am sure that many would benefit from a "top posting" world.  :-)

Only those who concentrate on their own thread(s) and who watch only
for replies to their own message(s), benefit from top posting. For
everyone else, top posting means extra effort.

> if you top post, then your reply is readable without 
> having to scroll the
> view window.

Unfortunately, it's not suitable for the usual flow of
communication:

 > question
 answer
 > question
 answer
 > question
 answer
 > quote
 reply
 > quote
 reply

With top posting it would look like:

 answer
 answer
 answer
 reply
 reply
 > question
 > question
 > question
 > quote
 > quote

Crap formatting. Increases the burden for the supporters who try to
help others.

> >Thanks.  (also - try wrapping your lines at column 72, it works better
> >for text oriented email clients.  As you can see, your text gets pretty
> >garbled, as above.)
> >
> my bad - this new e-mail client inherited most of my old settings, but 
> not this
> one apparantly.  thanks!

Something's wrong with your messages. Each 2nd line contains only
2-4 words. That makes your paragraphs difficult to read.

- -- 
Netiquette for Email Lists
http://www.lowendmac.com/lists/netiquette.shtml

Trim Down Your Quotes
http://www.enabling.org/ia/celiac/netiquett.html#TRIM

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