Re: Red Hat EW Licensing

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RedHat's trademark can only restrict you so much...
You will not be able to say it's a RedHat EL CD, but you can say that it
contains portions of RedHat EL CD :)

Rui

On Thu, 2003-04-10 at 22:05, Thomas Dodd wrote:
> Tom Georgoulias wrote:
> > Thomas Dodd wrote:
> > 
> >> See the GPL. If you modify GPL source code, it's still GPL. So if you 
> >> distribute the binaries, which are GPL, you must make the the source 
> >> available, and cannot restrict redistribution of either. The only 
> >> redistribution limits are:
> >> 1) Red Hat's tradmarks (like the ShadowMan logo, and the name)
> >> 2) non-GPL code included with the distro, like IBM's JVM.
> > 
> > 
> >> So Red Hat says the _SOFTWARE_ is GPL. So I copy, modify, and 
> >> redistribute according the the GPL. I've asked sales about it. waiting 
> >> for a reply.
> > I read the "certain image files" mentioned in the first paragraph of 
> > Appendix 1 to be the IBM JDK mentioned in the second paragraph:
> 
> > Since there seems to be no differentiation of trademark useage between 
> > RHL and RHEL, the usual redistribution guidelines apply.  And I take 
> > that to mean the JDK is the biggest barrier to binary redistribution.
> 
> So it appears that the IBM stuff cannot be copied except to authorized 
> (RHEN subscribed) systems. You cannot remove it from the distro, due to 
> the Red Hat trademarks use requirements. Time to make Pink Tie WS/ES 
> <http://cart.cheapbytes.com/cgi-bin/cart/0070010908.html?id=kmmg6Utm>
> 
> <aside>
> I'm still not sure why cheapbytes had to modify the set. It's the same 
> as the downloadable version. If it was a LUG selling it for the same 
> price, $7 for the 3 binary CDs, $13 for all 6 CDs, it'd be fine. The 
> reuse requirement of eductional/not-for-profit doesn't make sense.
> 
> I got several people to by CDs this way, who now buy boxed sets and RHN. 
> With out the service they would never have tried it. 1) slow network 
> speeds. 2) no CDR.
> 
> Groups like CheapBytes help spread linux top where it is now. Now they 
> are being shuned. Also note, that the sell the boxed versions too. So 
> it's an inexpensive way to try RHL. If you like it, you buy the box or 
> RHN later. I wonder how many peoply tried linux and RHL that way that 
> are now regular customers, bringing in more, especiall the big 
> enterpriise accounts.
> 
> </aside>
> 
> 	-Thomas
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