Re: Complaint about change in spam controls of mailing lists @ RedHat

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On Tuesday 22 April 2003 04:46 pm, jdow wrote:
> From: "Steven W. Orr" <steveo@xxxxxxxxxxx>
>
> > On 11:53am, quoth Dirk Dettmering:
> >
> > =>Every ISP should provide a SMTP Relay for its customers. period.
> > Every =>Customer should use that SMTP Relay. period. Using RBLs to
> > reject =>mails from dialup ip addresses is a good practice, well
> > done and =>should be done as often as possible. period.
> > =>
> > =>The cyber world doesn't consists of just idealists anymore. There
> > are =>to many bad guys out there in the wild (and bad girls as well
> > of =>course! *g*) doing bad things and therefor something has to be
> > done. =>Using DUL RBLs can help a lot and in fact they have cut
> > down the spam =>on my mail servers bye a huge amount. The best
> > thing of RBLs is that =>they allow you to reject the mail before it
> > is completely delivered =>which helps avoiding traffic and also
> > give the spammers the feed back =>they deserve.
> >
> > Man, do I ever disagree with you on this. Besides the fact that I
> > really hate absolute statements, I can go along with windoze people
> > being required to use their ISP's but I use my sendmail server
> > expressly so that this problem does not come up. I run a carefully
> > selected set of RBLs and I also run SpamAssassin. My address is not
> > on a modem; it's on a cable modem. It remains up 24/7 and the
> > address is valid for about a year. You want to RBL modem addresses
> > that's fine with me, but blocking cable modem addresses is just
> > wrong.
> >
> > Can this please be fixed?
>
> Why? Does your ISP allow you to run services on your cable setup?
> My understanding is that most do not. It is easier to block dialup
> addresses than to attempt to block on a case by case basis. Use your
> ISP's smtp and be done with it.
>

If it was up consistently, I would have no complaint.  That is not the 
case.  I even offered to do a one time cleanup on it, gratus.  They 
refused.

mw
> Note also that many ISPs block port 25 explicitly forcing you to go
> through their server, which has various anti-spam measures
> implemented. (Other ISPs don't want competition for their spam
> generators. ATTBI and Worldcom come to mind for that.)
>
> {^_^}



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