On Wed, 2002-10-09 at 14:35, Rene Rask wrote: > > The program is complex as it is. Inconsistent shortcuts would make it a > living hell to work with. So be consistent about not using ALT+MB1. GNOME will soon be the default desktop on Solaris, and it will probably carry ALT+MB1 with it. I think it's very likely that this "de facto" standard will continue to follow GNOME and KDE to other Unices. For what it's worth; I think it's important that users be able to disable the combo. However, it's more a workaround for application bugs than something I'd expect for a default. Unix isn't what it was 10 years ago. WM's have been using ALT+MB1 for a very long time now, and it doesn't help users for application designers to continue trying to use that combo for other things. > And for what purpose? To be able to move a > window with alt+mb1? > Does anybody actually use that anyway. Yes. Constanty, along with sloppy focus. > And why is it there. I can move > and resize windows by using the borders of the windows. Just like every > other os. Care to guess why Emacs has a large set of key combos, rather than the small set used by "every other editor"? It's useful. It makes it easy for users to get done what they want. > Yes it works both ways. But I much prefer speed in an application over > being able to use a shortcut that is only linux related to move windows. > People working in complex apps know what I mean. I'm not arguing that programs shouldn't use mouse/keyboard combos. Just not that one. Or any using the Meta key, really... WM's usually bind all of ALT+MB[123]. > Alt-mb1 and several others are a legacy. I would be please if they were > removed. It's just a thing from when linux desktops where used by > programmers which do not use the mouse for anything else that moving > windows. I have to disagree. > Stuff like this is making the "linux is for hackers" come true. > (And doubly so, if you have to be a programmer to work around it) That's why I think users should have the option of disabling it. But, as I said, I think that applications using that combo should be considered an application bug.
