--- Alexandre Strube <surak@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > Em Qua, 2003-10-22 às 00:22, Alex Deucher escreveu: > > those have not been ported to the mesa 5.x and will not be included > in > > xfree86 4.4. There is some progress being made, but I doubt you > will > > see them in a release anytime soon. If you want to help with the > > development, the drivers are on a branch in DRI CVS. > > Oh, wish I could. It's preety annoying to see that your computer gets > faster with a oldie voodoo 4 pci than with its own agp 8x savage, > just > because of the driver... One of the things that always gets me about computer journalists and reviewers and even users to a certain degree is their tendency to blame developers. If you read a story about linux in PC Magazine or on ZDnet, they always say something like "the opensource driver developers need to get their act together and support more hardware, or support hardware better or linux will never catch on." No one ever wants to blame hardware vendors. The fact is, there aren't that many developers working on opensource drivers. Most do it in their spare time. Hardware venders employ people full time to develop drivers for windows. No wonder the hardware is well supported and generally bug free. Beyond even developer time, that fact is, many hardware venders don't release databooks for their products. without them developing a driver is either impossible or 5x harder than it would be with databooks because the developers have to figure out how the hardware works from trial and error, then develop a driver on top of that. It is also oftentimes the developer that also supports the drivers. Hardware venders have whole departments that deal with product support. So, if you want good support in linux, stick with hardware venders that help out opensource developers. Developers are more inclined to work on projects with receptive venders. That's why ati hardware is so well supported. If you want to use S3/VIA's savage driver, you'll have to use xfree86 4.2 for the time being. Unfortuntely developers just don't have enough spare time or lack the hardware to port the driver in a short amount of time. > > Anyway. I took a look at Tim's page, looking for updates on its > driver, > or even hoping that he took the via driver and fixed up himself :-) > that's not the case, but it indicates a driver for redhat 7.3 and 8. > Nothing for redhat 9 yet, in fact, it doesn't even compile. > The "via" driver and the savage driver are for different hardware. the xfree86 "via" driver is for the CLE266 integrated video hardware from VIA. the code for that driver was also released by via for xfree86 4.2. Alan Cox and several others cleaned up the 2D driver for inclusion in xfree86 cvs. Alan also started porting the via 3D code to mesa 5.x, but never got it finished. it now resides on a branch in cvs. The savage driver that S3/VIA released is also based on Tim's code but also needs to be ported to mesa 5.x. it too is in a branch in DRI CVS. Alex __________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? The New Yahoo! Shopping - with improved product search http://shopping.yahoo.com _______________________________________________ xfree86-list mailing list xfree86-list@xxxxxxxxxx https://www.redhat.com/mailman/listinfo/xfree86-list IRC: #xfree86 on irc.redhat.com
