On Fri, Jul 24, 2009 at 04:07:54PM -0500, Greg Beaver wrote: > Robert Cummings wrote: > > > I understand where you're coming from, and I've been on the same road > > before with PHP bug reports. And while I remember being really annoyed, > > especially when it turned out to actually be a bug, I have to say if you > > define your case clearly and state where either the documentation isn't > > clear enough, or the code works in an unexpected fashion, then they will > > usually give it the due consideration. Don't forget nobody is being paid > > to handle bug reports, it's all on a volunteer basis and I'm quite > > certain they get oodles of real bogus bugs. > > Hi, > > I suggest anyone with a casual interest in understanding where php > developers who respond to bugs are coming from, just read the reports > and comments as they come through the php-bugs list (php.bugs on the > news server). > > Watch how many obvious bugs with issues (i.e. bogus bugs) come through, > and note what the rate of mis-judgements by the devs responding to bugs > is, it is very very low, but not 0%. > > You'll also notice Jani responds to almost everything, either assigning > it to someone, or closing the ones he sees as obvious for one reason or > another. > > You'll also notice that both he and users can be far more acidic than > the canned responses, and yes - if you have a suggestion for improving a > canned response, it will be taken seriously. I have to agree with the canned response. You've got volunteers working to produce one of the most-used languages on the web. The canned response saves time and gets the point across-- it's a feature, not a bug (from the viewpoint of the developers). Cut them some slack. On the other hand, I disagree with PHPs behavior with respect to the CLI. I can see that behavior in a web environment, but not with the CLI. Per's right that in a *nix environment, the default behavior is to honor the environment locale settings. Having to set the locale within a CLI is silly and counterintuitive with respect to *nix applications. I can't speak for Windows here. Paul -- Paul M. Foster -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php