On Tue, Apr 22, 2008 at 11:18 AM, Tony Marston <tony@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: [snip!] > > The real measure of a good framework is the length of time it takes to > create a new database table, then write the components to maintain the > contents of that table. I can do this in 5 minutes without having to write a > single line of PHP, HTML or SQL. If you can't match this then you're not in > the same league. I had never heard this before. Silly me.... I thought the "real measure of a good framework" was how much of the monotony of coding was removed, how many problems solved, et cetera. So I guess the BASh script I just whipped up a few seconds ago could be classified as a good framework. Since it's less than 40 lines, and doesn't require me to write any PHP, HTML, or SQL, I meet the requirements. Once again, it's semantics. Everyone is saying the same thing, just not using the same terminology. -- </Daniel P. Brown> Dedicated Servers - Intel 2.4GHz w/2TB bandwidth/mo. starting at just $59.99/mo. with no contract! Dedicated servers, VPS, and hosting from $2.50/mo. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php