Manuel Lemos schrieb: >>A reference where _I_ have to search is something like a non-answer... > > If you try searching the bug database for PHP 4 versus PHP 5 opened bug > reports you will get your answer. Same sentence still applies. But OK: PHP4 has 518 open bugs, PHP5 only 203. What does this say about the stability of PHP4? http://bugs.php.net/bugstats.php?phpver=4 http://bugs.php.net/bugstats.php?phpver=5 Also, PHP4 (first beta 19-Jul-1999) has a history of over 25300 bugs in its 6 year long history whereas PHP5 (first beta 29-Jun-2003) has had less than 4300 bugs filed in 2 years. Project this to 6 years and you are at 13000 filed bugs, roughly half as many as for PHP4. The site also states that PHP5 bugs are handled more quickly: PHP5: 47/3 vs PHP4: 71/5 (days average/median lifetime). So, you send me a link supporting my arguments. Thank you. > In case it was not clear for you, what I am saying is not the matter is > PHP 4.x vs. PHP 5.x, but rather upgrading vs. not upgrading. > [...] >>I've got PHP5 and 4 running on the same machine. > > I just do not get why you still run PHP 4 when you are so confident that > PHP 5 is the right version to use. Didn't you give yourself the answer? I'm not using PHP5 (read: upgrading) for stuff that doesn't want it (meaning its debian package requires PHP4). For my own projects I use PHP5 and if I decide to use some packages meant to be used with PHP4 I have yet to encounter real problems that are PHP5-problems. >>First of all, in many cases code reuse still is a myth. I hate to say it >>but it's true. Then, a large potion of the PHP community hasn't even >>heard of PEAR. Then, people definitely start projects from scratch. If > > You don't know if you have any numbers to back "the large portion of the > PHP community claim". The proof is the sheer number of "this is *THE* PHP application framework to use" sites on the internet. Some people don't like reusing code, some evaluate those projects and decide against them. For my part, before reinventing the wheel I always spend some time serching through PEAR and the web but very often the available solutions don't fit my needs. I simply suppose other developers tend to act the same way. > Anyway, as the developer of phpclasses.org, the largest PHP class > repository, I can inform you that the site has accumulated near 270,000 > subscriber since 1999, of which at least half of them are considered > active as you may verify here: > > http://www.phpclasses.org/browse/statistics/statistics.html > > The site has 2,200 approved packages but only 71 are PHP 5 specific. > > That is a lot of people reusing a lot of public class libraries! Ah, that thing. The site that always gives me problems when I try to log in after absence. I had switched to reregistering for every access before Berlios came along (thanks for threatening to sue them) and now I use the "Monster TGZs". AllOLLi ____________ \let\thepage\relax -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
