RE: palladium comparison -- Was: making pictures

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Do Iron prints go rusty?

Chris

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From: owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Trevor Cunningham
Sent: 28 September 2011 04:25
To: List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students
Subject: Re: palladium comparison -- Was: making pictures

Plat/pal has measured # of drops...VD and cyanotype, I just dip a brush 
and go! Also, cyanotype and VD chemistry is much less expensive. 
Kallitype uses a similar chemistry to VD, but adds a development/toning 
step that does complicate it a bit more than the other two, but is still 
held up as the poor man's plat/pal. Palladium salts are certainly 
cheaper than platinum, but iron is cheaper still. The trade-off is tonal 
range, though. However, Mike Ware apparently has a cyanotype formula 
that addresses this.

On 9/28/11 6:11 AM, YGelmanPhoto wrote:
> Hmmm.  Maybe there's a big difference between the usual palladium 
> processing and the (seemingly) simpler Ziatype method introduced by 
> Sullivan (of Bostick and Sullivan).  Could you elaborate some 
> regarding "more involved and expensive" ?  The chemistry and paper 
> coating is much simpler, at least.  No?
>
>   -yoram
>
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 10:50 PM, Trevor Cunningham wrote:
>
>> By iron-based, I'm speaking of cyanotype, vandyke, and kallitype. 
>> Trust me that palladium is much more involved and expensive!
>>
>> On 9/27/11 9:35 PM, YGelmanPhoto wrote:
>>> Trevor's comment is the first time I heard of an iron-based process, 
>>> so I googled and found this 
>>>
<http://www.alternativephotography.com/wp/alt-proc/alternative-process-photo
graphy-and-science-meet-at-the-getty>.   
>>> Fascinating, but too much to read in a month!
>>>
>>> I'm glad the alternative process I'll use most is much less 
>>> complicated -- making palladium prints.  . . . [skip] . . .
>
>>>  -yoram
>
>



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