Re: govt spys?

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Bob Blakely <Bob@xxxxxxxxxxx> writes:

> I've been in this business for a long time now. The NSA does not
> monitor US phones. Period.

Your information is out of date, and you seem to have accepted the
official story covering earlier times.  Maybe the official story of
earlier times is true, but the *official story* right now is that the
NSA is monitoring conversations involving phones in the United
States. 

"After the September 11 attacks, Bush authorized the National Security
Agency to monitor the international telephone calls and e-mails of
U.S. citizens without first obtaining warrants as a means of tracking
al Qaeda operations."
<http://today.reuters.com/news/newsArticle.aspx?type=domesticNews&storyID=2006-02-03T221136Z_01_N03281239_RTRUKOC_0_US-SECURITY-EAVESDROPPING.xml>

"he president also answered critics of the controversial National
Security Administration (NSA) program permitting warrantless
surveillance of overseas communications to and from the United
States."
<http://www.timesherald.com/site/news.cfm?newsid=16041869&BRD=1672&PAG=461&dept_id=33380&rfi=6> 

"Insisting once again that NSA covert eavesdropping is legal, the
president signaled that he would oppose congressional attempts to
change the program if the effort appears likely to compromise the
program launched in the wake of the Sept. 11 attacks."
<http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/politics/20060126-1505-cnsbush.html>

"Gonzales and other officials, for example, have repeatedly said that
the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA), which governs secret
surveillance in the United States, is too cumbersome to be applied to
the NSA eavesdropping program. "
<http://freeinternetpress.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=5677>

"Owing to the globalization of telecommunications, many telephone
calls between parties in foreign countries or with an American at one
end are routed through American networks. By analyzing this traffic,
the NSA has been gathering clues to possible terrorist activities."
<http://www.iht.com/articles/2006/01/30/opinion/edbobbitt.php>

And so on ad infinitum.  The NSA is actively involved in monitoring
phone conversations on phones in the United States.  This has been
*all over* the news for the last few weeks. 

And they've probably really been doing it for decades, as part of the
Echelon program, although the official position was that it was
illegal then. 

I've seen with my own eyes the banks of tape recorders at Ft. Meade
(nearly 20 years ago now) recording Echelon captures.  It's widely
believed that that included any domestic phone traffic sent via
microwave (a lot more of it then than now) and all overseas traffic
and a lot of totally non-US traffic that for various reasons happened
to go through US switches. 
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