----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Chamberlain, : Last week I purchased a Canon EOS 1Ds Mk II. :but : wanted to have some assurance that the equipment was new and not something : that had been opened before and handled by numerous customers. : I called Canon and was told that this feature is not offered for any of : Canon's cameras. found elsewhere: "Open picture in one of exif viewers and find field "Unknown (0093)". It should look like: Unknown (0093)3,9: 18,Y,X,0,0,0,65535,65535,0 Important are Y and X. If Y is 0 then shutter count is X. If Y is 1 or more, then count real count is Yx65536+X. Y increases for 1 every 65536 photos" another answer is: Go to: http://www.soens.de/ Select SOFTWARE download the demo version of 'EOS1DInf Version 1.2' (used to be called cancount.exe) drag a RAW file into Cancount and it tells you how many shutter actuations the camera has made. maybe this will help k