Colleagues, Let's not get the discussion carry us too far away from the original AZ statement: Quote: >If you believe as I do that images are all out there and that their >subject is in effect the viewer who has learned the conventions of >casting about for them... The fatal flaw here resides in the second part of the sentence, that is the identification of the net caster. In a rather common trait of the human race, AZ states without even a blink that the photograph is the outcome of a decision from the human being holding the camera. I personally hold a very different view. If you very carefully look at the decisive moment, then it becomes very clear that it is the images out there that cast their net for the right photographer, one that will bring them out of nowhere to immortality. But it's a jungle out there. There are all these images that want to make it to the front and at least get their 15 minutes of glory. Some have more skills than others in the rat race for survival and they will catch a HCB in their net. Others will catch a local photojournalist and perhaps make it to page 5 of the sports section or remain in archive in one of hundreds of boxes of contact sheets. Then there are the millions of images that can't manage to catch better than some unknown figure that will take them to the local minilab and put them in a drawer until the big clean-up. But with digital, they now have to be very careful to pick the right guy, otherwise they will experience the worse of all fates, that of being just "flushed out" from the camera. Ho! What an horriffic fate... So the next time you are about to click your shutter, watch out! Don't let just any image catch you in their net! -:)) Regards, Guy Glorieux Pinhole photographer and maker of blurred, mis-aligned facsimile ----- Original Message ----- From: <lookaround360@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2004 8:37 PM Subject: RE: Angling for images > > Bob, > > In a late 'Seventies NPR interview played the other day I thought HCB > made a convincing case for his "decisive moment" quest and why he > thought it mattered. I wouldn't call him a teller of fish stories > without some evidence. Another frenchman - Doisneau was known to set > up his pictures. Maybe you are thinking of him. > > AZ > > Build a Lookaround! > The Lookaround Book, 2nd ed. > NOW SHIPPING > http://www.panoramacamera.us > > > > > > -------- Original Message -------- > > Subject: RE: Angling for images > > From: wildimages@xxxxxxxxxxx > > Date: Fri, August 06, 2004 6:08 am > > To: "List for Photo/Imaging Educators - Professionals - Students" > > <photoforum@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > > >You need to check the small print in your digicam manual. It's usually > > >in the section on how to set the types of image you want the camera to > > >recognize when it's in Auto Genre mode. I was using "Tight Modernist" > > >at the Concours with a touch of HBC. Ya never know when someone is > > >going to jump a puddle. > > > > Alan > > > > You do if you pay that someone to jump the puddle over and over again ;o) > > > > Never forget that HCB was just another fake (I really do hope rumours of > > his demise were not too previous ;O) > > > > Decisive moment? Hahahah ... > > > > Whatever, the pictures are still darned good!. > > > > Bob > > > > > > __________________________________________________________________ > > Get Tiscali Broadband From #15:99 > > http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband >