Bob, Interesting discussion you're having. >>> The truth is though, we either like photos or not when we first see them. Reality does not always make the best picture.<<< I met an artist many years ago who did the 60s album work for a lot of rock bands. I had been given a book of his work and in it, were a couple of pictures that were very uncomfortable to look at. They were of space ships in the far distant future flying around on the merry little journeys. But they all looked odd, not following the normals planes of geometry we're used to. He explained that his images were capturing the fact there was not up or down in space and therefore no true geometry like we understand. Great images but hard to look at. Gregory david Stempel FIREFRAMEi m a g i n g www.americanphotojournalist.com "The brave ones were shooting the enemy, the crazy ones got it on digital"