Re: Where is telnet?

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On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 3:44 PM, Mark <wolfmane@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 11:48 AM, Fernando Cassia <fcassia@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On Fri, May 15, 2009 at 8:03 AM, James Knott <james.knott@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>> Mark wrote:
>>>>
>>>> All flavors of Windows since 3.11 came with telnet pre-installed. My
>>>> Psion Series 5 (circa 1997) had telnet out of the box, and it
>>>> certainly doesn't have anything like the storage or any other
>>>> resources the ITs have.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>> Are you sure it was in Windows 3.11?  That was before MS embraced the
>>> internet, with W95.
>>
>> Windows 3.1 had no TCP/IP stack whatsoever. People used to install
>> "Trumpet Winsock" to get on-line.
>>
>> Back then the first x86 desktop OS to be released which included a
>> TCP/IP stack and web browser was IBM OS/2 Warp 3.0, released in 1994.
>>
>> FC
>
> Not quite right. I had "Windows for Workgroups", version 3.11 (as
> opposed to 3.1), which was obviously intended for network/Internet use
> and had additional components. I didn't have to install anything extra
> beyond the Workgroup extras. I do recall later having to do some
> troubleshooting that involved delving into Trumpet Winsock, but that
> was long after I was online. Windows 3.0 had no winsock out of the
> box, but it was available.

Sorry, I missed the "3.11" in your statement. Yet, I assumed, and
continue to think that WfW (which we in the Team OS/2 referred to as
"Windows for Warehouses") included only NETBIOS/Netbeui/IPX protocols
as the base for "Peer to peer" LAN networking (printer sharing, disk
sharing), but not TCP/IP.

Where to get TCP/IP for WfW 3.11 ?
http://lists.samba.org/archive/samba/1998-July/007965.html

http://stason.org/TULARC/os/windows-winsock/11-Microsoft-TCP-IP-32.html

"This is Microsoft's stack for use with Windows NT or Windows for
Workgroups 3.11. Unfortunately, this stack does NOT support dialup
connections. Free for owners of Windows NT or Windows for Workgroups.
Available from:

ftp://ftp.microsoft.com/peropsys/windows/Public/tcpip/";

Download TCP/IP for Windows 3.11b
http://support.microsoft.com/default.aspx?scid=kb;en-us;99891

FC
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