On Thu, 14 May 2009, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > ext Matan Ziv-Av wrote: >>>> Unfortunately, I don't have it on my N810 and can't find a copy of it. >>>> And >>>> the times I need it are when travelling and so I have not got around to >>>> porting it myself! I did not really write that. You have some problem in your quoting. > Telnet isn't something that's either: > - Needed by the device itself > - An essential (needed in installing most of Debian packages > without them declaring a separate dependency) The same is true for chvt, netstat, uniq, and probably many others, yet they were included. The decision to not include telnet was a bad decision. Admitting to mistakes and fixing them (even if only in Fremantle) is better than attacking someone who expects to have telnet on his internet tablet. > It's an (advanced) end-user tool and can be installed separately. > > Have you tested that Busybox telnet even works as well as real telnet? > With the past experience I have some doubts about the quality of misc > Busybox tools. :-) Yes, I have. And even if it does not, it surely does better than no telnet at all. I wonder what kind of QA did Nokia run on busybox's top or nslookup (for example) before deciding to include them? >> Life with the tablet could be a bit simpler if Nokia chose to include more >> stuff that is available in busybox (md5sum, cpio, hexdump, ...). > > Some of them will be included into Fremantle; the ones that are in > Debian in packages that Busybox currently claims to provide and > conflicts with and which provide options compatible with GNU tools. > Other tools belong to somewhere else. telnet belongs on an "Interner Tablet", and claiming otherwise is akin to claiming that the WWW is the internet. -- Matan Ziv-Av. matan@xxxxxxxxxxx _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users