On Fri, Apr 25, 2008 at 10:43:59AM +0300, Eero Tamminen wrote: > Hi, > > ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> My personal opinion (and I insist in the "personal" bit) is that a > >> requisite to continue any Hacker Edition model is to have the community > >> hackers not only involved but driving. > > > > Agreed. But Nokia need to do some more work to make this viable. As I > > outline in my "maemo.org: what next?" post[1], I'm afraid you can't > > get this for free. > > > > The community *could* maintain the Hacker Editions, but currently the > > level of work involved would be too great to make it worthwhile. For > > example (and I've not tried any of this myself, since I no longer have > > a 770, so please forgive any errors): > > > > * How can the community create an easy to install FIASCO image? > > * How can the community easily recompile large numbers of source packages > > from Maemo 3.x and 4.x with 770-compatible optimisations? > > * Are the changes which were necessary to build the existing HEs integrated > > upstream; is the series of patches applyable and maintainable over a > > given codebase? > > * Is it clear which bits of an N800 firmware image need to be extracted and > > reused wholesale, and which bits of an existing 770 firmware image need to > > copied verbatim as they are binary blobs? > > * Can the kernel be updated and still maintain user-expected > > functionality such > > as wifi, BT and power management? > > * If all the above is possible, can the community actually > > redistribute the images > > in compliance with the click-through EULA on ITOS firmware downloads, which > > prohibits redistribution? > > And: > * Which of the 3rd party binary blobs (flashplayer[1], fonts etc) in > the newer release would require users to buy extra licensees to > legally use it on another product. And for which they can actually > do this > > [1] For example, you need to buy a license for using Flashplayer on > an embedded device: > "Usage of Adobe Web Players is only permitted for supported > platforms; usage rights on non-PC devices or embedded systems > are not granted by this license." > see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ It's not clear whether the n800 is an "embedded device". It's very similar to some of the hard-disk-free laptops that are appearing these days, except for form factor. -- hendrik _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users