Hi, ext Andrew Flegg wrote: > On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> My personal opinion (and I insist in the "personal" bit) is that a >> requisite to continue any Hacker Edition model is to have the community >> hackers not only involved but driving. > > Agreed. But Nokia need to do some more work to make this viable. As I > outline in my "maemo.org: what next?" post[1], I'm afraid you can't > get this for free. > > The community *could* maintain the Hacker Editions, but currently the > level of work involved would be too great to make it worthwhile. For > example (and I've not tried any of this myself, since I no longer have > a 770, so please forgive any errors): > > * How can the community create an easy to install FIASCO image? > * How can the community easily recompile large numbers of source packages > from Maemo 3.x and 4.x with 770-compatible optimisations? > * Are the changes which were necessary to build the existing HEs integrated > upstream; is the series of patches applyable and maintainable over a > given codebase? > * Is it clear which bits of an N800 firmware image need to be extracted and > reused wholesale, and which bits of an existing 770 firmware image need to > copied verbatim as they are binary blobs? > * Can the kernel be updated and still maintain user-expected > functionality such > as wifi, BT and power management? > * If all the above is possible, can the community actually > redistribute the images > in compliance with the click-through EULA on ITOS firmware downloads, which > prohibits redistribution? And: * Which of the 3rd party binary blobs (flashplayer[1], fonts etc) in the newer release would require users to buy extra licensees to legally use it on another product. And for which they can actually do this [1] For example, you need to buy a license for using Flashplayer on an embedded device: "Usage of Adobe Web Players is only permitted for supported platforms; usage rights on non-PC devices or embedded systems are not granted by this license." see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/ A few years ago the minimum number of licensees was 1000: http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4552853449.html The current Flashplayer and other binary blobs may have similar restrictions. - Eero _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users