Re: Hacker Edition (was Re: Is OS2006 still supported?)

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Hi,

ext Andrew Flegg wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 23, 2008 at 1:14 PM, Quim Gil <quim.gil@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>  My personal opinion (and I insist in the "personal" bit) is that a
>>  requisite to continue any Hacker Edition model is to have the community
>>  hackers not only involved but driving.
> 
> Agreed. But Nokia need to do some more work to make this viable. As I
> outline in my "maemo.org: what next?" post[1], I'm afraid you can't
> get this for free.
> 
> The community *could* maintain the Hacker Editions, but currently the
> level of work involved would be too great to make it worthwhile. For
> example (and I've not tried any of this myself, since I no longer have
> a 770, so please forgive any errors):
> 
>   * How can the community create an easy to install FIASCO image?
>   * How can the community easily recompile large numbers of source packages
>     from Maemo 3.x and 4.x with 770-compatible optimisations?
>   * Are the changes which were necessary to build the existing HEs integrated
>     upstream; is the series of patches applyable and maintainable over a
>     given codebase?
>   * Is it clear which bits of an N800 firmware image need to be extracted and
>    reused wholesale, and which bits of an existing 770 firmware image need to
>    copied verbatim as they are binary blobs?
>   * Can the kernel be updated and still maintain user-expected
> functionality such
>     as wifi, BT and power management?
>   * If all the above is possible, can the community actually
> redistribute the images
>     in compliance with the click-through EULA on ITOS firmware downloads, which
>     prohibits redistribution?

And:
* Which of the 3rd party binary blobs (flashplayer[1], fonts etc) in
   the newer release would require users to buy extra licensees to
   legally use it on another product.  And for which they can actually
   do this

[1] For example, you need to buy a license for using Flashplayer on
     an embedded device:
"Usage of Adobe Web Players is only permitted for supported
  platforms; usage rights on non-PC devices or embedded systems
  are not granted by this license."
     see: http://www.adobe.com/licensing/distribution/

A few years ago the minimum number of licensees was 1000:
	http://www.linuxdevices.com/news/NS4552853449.html

The current Flashplayer and other binary blobs may have similar
restrictions.


	- Eero

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