Quim Gil wrote: > Frantisek Dufka wrote: >> BTW is the first 2008HE also the last one? > > Undecided. Is it worth investing more time on this? If so, is it worth > investing it keeping the current way or finding a way for the community > to take over? Current way is not ideal from the beginning. Each hacker edition so far was done without any public progress or discussion. So far the community role was mostly asking about progress with no answer, waiting, and later reporting bugs in garage tracker after some release appeared. As example see garage project forum https://garage.maemo.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=612 or tracker https://garage.maemo.org/tracker/?group_id=164 Mostly there is no response from project maintainers. Same happens when one asks here in the mailing list. > The 770 topic itself is important according to user > reactions in the Internet but is it out there enough users, developers > and "install base" to make this happen? I don't know. Maybe you have download statistics for hacker editions? Maybe some permanent poll/survey can be done directly on hacker edition download page so nobody will miss it next time? It would be interesting to know how many active users there are and how many of them are developers that are interested in helping with takeover and maintenance. Also this is not only about 770. We are going to have same problem with N8x0 once next generation of (OMAP3 based?) tablets comes (hopefuly soon :-). There are same issues with N8x0 related to closed stuff in initfs, wi-fi driver, dsp etc. Installed base is bigger and we probably can't expect Nokia to suport N8x0 forever so sooner or later we get to the same point of 'hacker editions' for N8x0. If it turns out that it is not worthwhile for 770 due to not enough community people interested, there is high chance it won't be the case with N8x0. And since the problematic closed hardware and software is almost identical for 770 and N8x0, we may as well try to start with 770 now. It can take some time so if 770 dies in obsolescence in the meanwhile, it will be just about time for N8x0 :-) It is understandable Nokia (or any other company) is really bad at maintaining old products. Nokia people are busy working on current and next stuff so old stuff becomes quickly forgotten inside the company. Even if someone from inside wants to help, finds spare time and even decides he is allowed to help (almost unrealistic scenario) he finds that any information for older product (770 today) is gone and nobody knows anything anymore. The sooner company dumps such information with the community the better. Frantisek _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
