Hi, To the originator of this thread: Nokia launched the 770 and release the OS2006 - and we are responsible of that. But Python and many other libraries and applications compatible with OS2006 were contributed by third parties, and all the merit goes for them. ext lakestevensdental wrote: > As a point of comparison between the internet tablets and microlaptops Thanks for your detailed comparison. Direct comparisons in real world help a lot understanding (all of us) what is going on. As much as I understand the feelings of the 770 owners, I also think that many (not all!) comparisons we are seeing are rather simplistic and better for an ideal world than the real one we live in. Nokia produces devices fitting in pockets. Let's compare devices in this category if we really want to have a fruitful discussion. Nowadays: what customers in the consumer electronics or the computer industry expect continuous support and (free/paid) software updates for devices fitting in their pockets, launched in 2005 or before? Let's look at the real examples and let's see what can we learn from them. You can compare OS2006 in the 770 with your distro of choice in your PC because both are Linux-based, but this comparison won't help you understanding the complexities behind. Platform development on top of a PC (consolidated x86 architecture and fat hardware resources) is radically different than developing on top of a tablet (new and far from consolidated silicon and hardware configurations in devices fitting in your pocket and lasting several hours without recharging). Add to this that the final product is in the price range the tablets are, and that the software updates are expected to be free as in beer. What products beat the tablets and specifically the 770 in this sense? Let's discuss those. Remember the first laptop you bought. Did you expect it to stay fit for how long? And your second laptop? It is now that things start getting decent in the lifetime of portable computers. For the devices fitting in your pocket it will take a little longer. The fact that users want full Internet (think the Internet 3 years ago and now in terms of hardware requirements), full multimedia, amazing UI and what not doesn't really help making mobile devices stay young for long. Yes, on the software side you can do a lot, but thing also that in the real world we live, doing a lot on task A implies doing less on tasks B, C, D. Bad if you leave your focus on the 770, bad if you don't beat the new products launched by the competition? We need to find the balance - and we need to make a sustainable (my managers would say "profitable") business out of it. This balance probably goes in the direction of - Let Nokia and third parties push innovation in new products as fast and successful as possible. Otherwise the rest will be pointless. - Nokia makes sure all of its customers (users, developers) get a good service for the time and money they invest. - The community is empowered to keep over time hardware and software as fit as they wish and are able to. We have discussed some times the latter point, which I believe is the most crucial to most of the people complaining. We haven't forgot the previous discussions and we are open to new ideas. Quim Gil _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users
