En/na Quim Gil ha escrit: >> The community sure can do many things, but cannot do some *core* things, >> like replacing the kernel with a newer one (once the binary blobs stops >> working since the vendor lost interest in providing it), or replacing >> some nokia applets to control those things. > > Alright. Do you think that application developers and regular users of > those devices would be stuck if they are stuck to the same kernel and > related components - or progress can be done anyway? > > Dunno, there is something a bit tricky here. In the surface of the > discussion it looks like everything gets stuck because A, B, C are > binary blobs the community can't handle. A possibility is though that > there is not enough community push in the areas where a difference can > be made even with the same kernel and binaries. Let's say 50/50? ;-) Yes, progress can be done even if you can't change the kernel, but probably there are less people interested/willing/able to do things than with a more mainstream platform. OTOH if the hardware is working with open drivers, one can always try something different, like, say, installing a "standard" debian distribution (like people are installing fedora/ubuntu/mandriva on the EEE pc now) and give the device a new lease of life. You can do that now, but since things are changing fast in the linux world, you probably won't be able to do it in a year or two, unless the drivers are in the mainline kernel. > > Most users and even developers care about the applications. Couldn't the > official OS2006 or one of the HE handle more and better applications > just as it is? BTW, I have an n800, not a 770, so I don't have this problem right now and cannot reply to this question, but I hope I can give good use to my n800 even if it's not the latest gizmo, as long as it isn't broken. >>> Do you mean that Nokia 770 owners can't work on progress themselves >>> until these components are opensourced? >> or the hardware is documented > > Here we need to distinguish between code and documentation that Nokia > could disclose and what belongs actually to third parties. The game gets > more complicated. Well, yes, but a company that buys chipsets in the millions has a lot more bargaining force with its suppliers than a lone hacker in a basement, hasn't it? Bye -- Luca _______________________________________________ maemo-users mailing list maemo-users@xxxxxxxxx https://lists.maemo.org/mailman/listinfo/maemo-users