Karen, Start out at the web site for Nebraska Commission for the Blind. There are links to communicate with all the board members, who are appointed by the governor. Glenn ----- Original Message ----- From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> Cc: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John G. Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxx>; <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 4:24 PM Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) Do what? where I am it is actually a violation of vendor contract to tell someone they must use a certain tool. give them the chance in an office to try several things yes. Force jaws down their throat like rehab does no. I said I wished I knew someone in Nebraska media not that I did...although perhaps. On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > Please do. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> > Cc: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John G. Heim" > <jheim@xxxxxxxx>; > <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; > <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 3:46 PM > Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) > > > Glen, > you are missing the point. > A commission board, at least if constructed with integrity serves as a > watchdog for your organization's activities. > Making sure that you act, objectively, and above influence with government > funding. > That role differs from a public servant, like yourself. > In fact that the commission has members from both organizations is > exactly why you should not be a member. > if, as you said, the state has an Nfb philosophy, I wonder just how above > influence that commission actually is, lip service attendance does not > translate to the statement you freely made. > Honestly, i wish I knew someone with Nebraska public radio. there is a > investigative, data journalism piece right here, exploring how objective > your office is in fact. > > > > On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: > >> Karen, >> In Nebraska, the commission board attends both consumer groups' state >> conventions. >> So there is total transparency within the consumer groups. >> The agency sends clients to both conventions for educational purposes. >> Some can go to either national convention on the state. >> Glenn >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> >> Cc: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John G. Heim" >> <jheim@xxxxxxxx>; >> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 2:06 PM >> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >> >> >> wrong. >> Your first duty is to those clients You serve. as illustrated here the >> Nfb >> used their ability to reach insiders to influence policy to the detriment >> of the broader community...same can clearly be said for freedom >> scientific. >> That you stated clearly that your rehab system runs on an nfb philosophy >> illustrates my point perfectly. >> There are countless legal terms for such conflicts of interest, I dare >> say if you were serving any other clientele your government watchdog >> would >> put a stop to the practice. >> allows the organization to have undue almost antitrust influence on >> people's lives. >> >> >> >> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >> >>> I don't think so, we are people first, and being a government employee >>> should not preclude personal rights. >>> Besides, I attended the conventions for CEU credits, but I never joined >>> with >>> dues. >>> Glenn >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> >>> Cc: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "John G. Heim" >>> <jheim@xxxxxxxx>; >>> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >>> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 11:36 AM >>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>> >>> >>> speaking personally? >>> No government employee should be a member of the NfB. ethical conflict >>> of interest personified. >>> >>> Karen >>> >>> >>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>> >>>> Yeah, I had been to a state NFBN convention that year and did the PAC >>>> thing. >>>> Then when the NFB did that, I called up the state treasurer for the >>>> NFBN >>>> and >>>> cancelled my PAC plan. >>>> I told them that they don't care if I can read my money, then they >>>> don't >>>> need any from me. >>>> Glenn >>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> To: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Cc: "John G. Heim" <jheim@xxxxxxxx>; "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; >>>> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>> Sent: Wednesday, August 17, 2022 11:18 AM >>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>> >>>> >>>> My personal favorite is the rejection of money that could be identified >>>> by touch. never mind that for honestly thousands of years the practice >>>> has >>>> been common so those with limited education could still engage in >>>> commerce. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, 17 Aug 2022, Butch Bussen wrote: >>>> >>>>> Yes, I remember that. And what about their oposition to descriptive >>>>> video, >>>>> even filed a law sute to get the law thrown out, which it was at that >>>>> time. >>>>> 73 >>>>> Butch >>>>> WA0VJR >>>>> Node 3148 >>>>> Wallace, ks. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, 16 Aug 2022, John G. Heim wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Holy cow! Are you aware that the NFB once asked Microsoft to *NOT* >>>>>> improve >>>>>> Narrator to the point where it would compete with Jaws? If you think >>>>>> the >>>>>> NFB is incapable of forcing choices on people, you are very sadly >>>>>> mistaken. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 8/16/22 09:36, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>>>>>> This sort of thing would never happen in Nebraska, or any state >>>>>>> where >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> agency staff is of the NFB philosophy. >>>>>>> Say what you want about the NFB, no organization is without its >>>>>>> problems, >>>>>>> but it is the core philosophy that formed the NFB that knows that >>>>>>> society >>>>>>> has low expectations of the Blind, and this is why the NFB >>>>>>> believes >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> skills and high expectations. >>>>>>> And with that, comes giving respect to the Blind, like the respect >>>>>>> of >>>>>>> choice. >>>>>>> Yeah I know about the information of recent about NFB abuse, but >>>>>>> this >>>>>>> is >>>>>>> organizational issues, unrelated to the philosophy. In fact, the >>>>>>> fact >>>>>>> that >>>>>>> it has come up demonstrates that the NFB is no different than any >>>>>>> other >>>>>>> organization in interpersonal staff issues. >>>>>>> And choice does not mean training center choices. >>>>>>> Choice isn't always an option, just like if you took a vocational >>>>>>> course >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> college, there are things you have to take, so to me, the lack of >>>>>>> choice >>>>>>> in >>>>>>> this regard is different than computer software, where all the >>>>>>> choices >>>>>>> will >>>>>>> reach the same end result. >>>>>>> In states where the NFB philosophy is embraced, if a client said I >>>>>>> want >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> use a Mac, or I want Window Eyes, then that is what they would >>>>>>> get, >>>>>>> no >>>>>>> questions asked. >>>>>>> They would not have to fight to get it. >>>>>>> I simply cannot imagine a counselor saying that someone has to use >>>>>>> the >>>>>>> software that the counselor wants them to have. >>>>>>> When I hear that stuff, I almost cannot believe it, but I know >>>>>>> Butch >>>>>>> well >>>>>>> enough to know he wouldn't make that up. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>> From: "Butch Bussen" <butchb@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> To: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Cc: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email>; >>>>>>> <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>>>>> "Milan >>>>>>> Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2022 8:18 AM >>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> You are right. In Nevada, freedom pushed jaws to the rehab people >>>>>>> and >>>>>>> took them out for steak diners and so forth. I fought like hell >>>>>>> to >>>>>>> get >>>>>>> them to buy window-eyes. >>>>>>> 73 >>>>>>> Butch >>>>>>> WA0VJR >>>>>>> Node 3148 >>>>>>> Wallace, ks. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Sun, 14 Aug 2022, Karen Lewellen wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> And where do these employers learn about jaws? >>>>>>>> In fact, provide if you do not mind an example of how this works >>>>>>>> exactly. >>>>>>>> after all, unless I am incorrect, these employers are not >>>>>>>> personal >>>>>>>> Jaws >>>>>>>> users, meaning someone they trust continues to sell them on an >>>>>>>> expensive >>>>>>>> program instead of a largely free one. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Karen, >>>>>>>>> Most employers don't want NVDA, and will only allow Jaws. >>>>>>>>> In Nebraska, if an employer said put on whatever works, the >>>>>>>>> counselors >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> use NVDA, because of the cost of Jaws. >>>>>>>>> If some of the clients in a call center already use Jaws, but >>>>>>>>> don't know >>>>>>>>> NVDA, the counselor will use Jaws, because the other clients >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> learn one of the two. >>>>>>>>> So it's all choice, but in the workplace, it depends on what >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> employer >>>>>>>>> will allow. >>>>>>>>> Also, sometimes scripts need to be made, and there are more >>>>>>>>> Jaws >>>>>>>>> scripters >>>>>>>>> available than there are NVDA add-on writers. >>>>>>>>> So this perception that Jaws is forced by rehab, from my 31 >>>>>>>>> years >>>>>>>>> in the >>>>>>>>> business I can say is rubbish. >>>>>>>>> Now, if a counselor did not know how to use NVDA, and either >>>>>>>>> may >>>>>>>>> be >>>>>>>>> chosen, >>>>>>>>> the rehab counselor is able to select the one that the >>>>>>>>> counselor >>>>>>>>> feels >>>>>>>>> is >>>>>>>>> best for the student and for the counselor's teaching. >>>>>>>>> When it comes to part B moneys, which is used for >>>>>>>>> non-vocational >>>>>>>>> purchases, >>>>>>>>> where a lot of Jaws purchases come from, it is in the agency's >>>>>>>>> best >>>>>>>>> interest >>>>>>>>> to spend as little as possible, because that doesn't come back >>>>>>>>> like VR >>>>>>>>> expenditures do. >>>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> >>>>>>>>> Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" >>>>>>>>> <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>>>>>>> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 6:15 PM >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The challenge with that example is that, as one often gets >>>>>>>>> reminded, >>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>> rehab systems track record for facilitating employment for >>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>> clients >>>>>>>>> is quite poor. >>>>>>>>> With a high percentage of unemployment among our clients. >>>>>>>>> Making, >>>>>>>>> speaking personally, your buying Jaws for personal use not >>>>>>>>> really >>>>>>>>> reflecting how the system would respond to an alternative >>>>>>>>> request. >>>>>>>>> Now if someone from organized rehab said, okay freedom >>>>>>>>> scientific, we >>>>>>>>> are >>>>>>>>> creating an employment program where our clients will train in >>>>>>>>> Linux, >>>>>>>>> needing a solid screen reader solution for the system. We >>>>>>>>> will >>>>>>>>> give you >>>>>>>>> an >>>>>>>>> exclusive development contract for s millions to create the >>>>>>>>> tool. >>>>>>>>> Fs would likely say where do we sign? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> True enough, but largely, rehab people typically use Windows >>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>> work, >>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>> probably at home, but they need to cater to the needs of the >>>>>>>>>> client. >>>>>>>>>> If a client used Linux, I doubt that any rehab counselor >>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>> advocate >>>>>>>>>> that >>>>>>>>>> the client switch to Windows, unless that was needed for a >>>>>>>>>> specific >>>>>>>>>> job. >>>>>>>>>> In Nebraska, we purchased Jaws much more for personal use >>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>> we did >>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>> work related situations. >>>>>>>>>> So if FS made a JFL, and people were using Linux, rehab would >>>>>>>>>> indeed >>>>>>>>>> purchase a JFL product. >>>>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> >>>>>>>>>> Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" >>>>>>>>>> <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>>>>>>>> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 3:01 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> there was an interesting discussion a month or so back on the >>>>>>>>>> blinux >>>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>>> about how long it took completing tasks in the gui as apposed >>>>>>>>>> to say >>>>>>>>>> command line, the comments were quite informative. >>>>>>>>>> Still, fs has never marketed largely to the end user. Instead >>>>>>>>>> they >>>>>>>>>> market >>>>>>>>>> to the American rehab community. >>>>>>>>>> how much market research has the rehab community done to >>>>>>>>>> support the >>>>>>>>>> need >>>>>>>>>> for choices? >>>>>>>>>> How many rehab counselors support training in Linux? >>>>>>>>>> one comment made by the subject of this thread about poor >>>>>>>>>> quality >>>>>>>>>> speech >>>>>>>>>> is a fine one...out of the box Linux has few speech choices. >>>>>>>>>> everyone >>>>>>>>>> brings their needs to the table there. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> if you want to get fs to care about Linux, you need to prove >>>>>>>>>> there is >>>>>>>>>> money for them there, from their main source of income. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well since Orca seems to work on so many distros, I don't >>>>>>>>>>> know why >>>>>>>>>>> FS >>>>>>>>>>> would >>>>>>>>>>> not be able to do the same. >>>>>>>>>>> If Jaws users could switch into Linux, it would be a real >>>>>>>>>>> game >>>>>>>>>>> changer, >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> I think with lots more Blind Linux users, we would start >>>>>>>>>>> seeing >>>>>>>>>>> accessibility in Linux not being a second thought. >>>>>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>> From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> To: "K0LNY_Glenn" <glenn@ervin.email> >>>>>>>>>>> Cc: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; "Milan Zamazal" >>>>>>>>>>> <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx>; >>>>>>>>>>> <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 1:47 PM >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Well technically freedom scientific does not exist any >>>>>>>>>>> longer, being >>>>>>>>>>> bought >>>>>>>>>>> by another company. >>>>>>>>>>> Still, I can respect why they, or nvda have not created >>>>>>>>>>> their >>>>>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> Linux. >>>>>>>>>>> That is because as I understand it, Linux is quite like >>>>>>>>>>> clay. You >>>>>>>>>>> can >>>>>>>>>>> mold a distribution into almost anything. there are various >>>>>>>>>>> personifications of the system, all sorts of ways and >>>>>>>>>>> changes >>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>> options >>>>>>>>>>> for creativity. >>>>>>>>>>> however adaptive tools are often extensions of physical >>>>>>>>>>> characteristics, >>>>>>>>>>> hands, eyes, ears, brains, combinations of these. >>>>>>>>>>> To build solid assistive tools one must have a solid >>>>>>>>>>> foundation as >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> were. that is part of why there have needed to be so few >>>>>>>>>>> Apple >>>>>>>>>>> efforts >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> inclusion, they created with, and then created in-house >>>>>>>>>>> adaptive >>>>>>>>>>> tools >>>>>>>>>>> for various populations that were built into the system. >>>>>>>>>>> Although Microsoft did not bother until much later, in >>>>>>>>>>> theory >>>>>>>>>>> at >>>>>>>>>>> least, >>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>> consistency of windows is what makes it possible for >>>>>>>>>>> freedom >>>>>>>>>>> or the >>>>>>>>>>> former >>>>>>>>>>> gw micro or nvda to create something that can in theory >>>>>>>>>>> work. >>>>>>>>>>> Floor for the furniture is somewhat solid. >>>>>>>>>>> Just my thoughts, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, 13 Aug 2022, K0LNY_Glenn wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to see Freedom Scientific make a Jaws For >>>>>>>>>>>> Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> JFL >>>>>>>>>>>> I'd certainly pay the yearly rental fee for it, and it >>>>>>>>>>>> would bring >>>>>>>>>>>> many >>>>>>>>>>>> more >>>>>>>>>>>> users into Linux. >>>>>>>>>>>> FS could, with its resources, possibly make it more >>>>>>>>>>>> robust >>>>>>>>>>>> than >>>>>>>>>>>> Orca. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Glenn >>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- >>>>>>>>>>>> From: "Milan Zamazal" <pdm@xxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>> To: <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cc: <Blinux-list@xxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2022 12:08 PM >>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: "Accessibility in Fedora Workstation" (fwd) >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> "KL" == Karen Lewellen >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> writes: >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> What bothers me most are his lack of actual >>>>>>>>>>>> qualifications, >>>>>>>>>>>> and >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> absolute dismissal of what he has not experienced..as >>>>>>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> he >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> defines Linux usage for everyone. That attitude is >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> dangerous, >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> because he is educating those outside of the >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> accessibility >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> experiences, who will believe his ignorance is >>>>>>>>>>>> factual. >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> he >>>>>>>>>>>> has >>>>>>>>>>>> KL> to be expert, it is his job. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Karen, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I know Lukas personally and I admire his skills and >>>>>>>>>>>> qualifications. >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> also know first hand that he is open to constructive >>>>>>>>>>>> feedback and >>>>>>>>>>>> I >>>>>>>>>>>> believe heâ?Td be happy to be corrected about possible >>>>>>>>>>>> technical >>>>>>>>>>>> inaccuracies in the interview. It may be also a good >>>>>>>>>>>> opportunity >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> find out whatâ?Ts possibly missing in making anybody >>>>>>>>>>>> better >>>>>>>>>>>> informed. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> As for â?oabsolute dismissal of what he has not >>>>>>>>>>>> experiencedâ?�, >>>>>>>>>>>> what >>>>>>>>>>>> reasonable free software alternatives to a less or more >>>>>>>>>>>> standard >>>>>>>>>>>> desktop >>>>>>>>>>>> with Orca and a software synthesizer can you see for a >>>>>>>>>>>> common >>>>>>>>>>>> blind >>>>>>>>>>>> user >>>>>>>>>>>> who needs to use a fully working web browser, to read and >>>>>>>>>>>> process >>>>>>>>>>>> text >>>>>>>>>>>> documents, to be compatible with other computer users, >>>>>>>>>>>> etc.? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> And letâ?Ts be realistic. We celebrate every single >>>>>>>>>>>> developer >>>>>>>>>>>> hired >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> improve accessibility. This tells something about the >>>>>>>>>>>> state of >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> matters. We cannot expect that a single person will fix >>>>>>>>>>>> all the >>>>>>>>>>>> kinds >>>>>>>>>>>> of accessibility problems in all the environments. Lukas >>>>>>>>>>>> works at >>>>>>>>>>>> his >>>>>>>>>>>> job focusing on certain areas currently seen there as >>>>>>>>>>>> urgent ones >>>>>>>>>>>> and I >>>>>>>>>>>> appreciate this opportunity. Anybody else seeing a need >>>>>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>>>>> work >>>>>>>>>>>> on >>>>>>>>>>>> other areas is welcome to contribute to whatever sees >>>>>>>>>>>> fit, >>>>>>>>>>>> as I >>>>>>>>>>>> do. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Milan >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> > >
