Hi, Alexander: Alexander Epaneshnikov writes: > On Tue, Dec 28, 2021 at 09:15:07PM +0100, Didier Spaier wrote: > > On 28/12/2021 20:50, Janina Sajka wrote: > ... > > In any case you need to rebuild espeakup-0.90 against espeak-ng. How to do that > > no need to do that. > Janina are you using pipewire on box with not working espeakup? > currently espeakup hasn't work with pw. I haven't found time to debug this yet. > sorry. > OK, Alexander. I understand time is a precious thing! <smile> Since Espeakup is behaving on both my machines, I'm a happy customer, i.e. I don't mind that I'm using old espeak on one machine, and espeak-ng on the other. That really doesn't bother me at all. I'm glad I'm now able to keep the remainder of the audio infrastructure updating. Yes, I seem to have a full compliment of pw on the older machine, and the same set of pw on the newer machine. Interestingly, the files in /etc/alsa/conf.d/ are different. The new machine shows only two files there: 50-pipewire.conf 99-pipewire-default.conf On the older machine, earlier today, I tried renumber my alsa devices via /etc/modprobe.d/alsa.conf. I ended up putting things back the way they were, because the builtin Intel HDA device doesn't work as card 0 for some reason--very strange, but I adjusted some time ago to start numbering my three devices as 1, 2 and 3. So, after I put things back, a see much more pw in that directory: 10-samplerate.conf 10-speexrate.conf 50-arcam-av-ctl.conf 50-jack.conf 50-oss.conf 50-pipewire.conf 50-pulseaudio.conf 60-speex.conf 60-upmix.conf 60-vdownmix.conf 98-usb-stream.conf 99-pipewire-default.conf This suggests to me that the conversion to pw is still a work in progress! I've no idea why the above is the situation, though, or what packages handle what aspect. Best, Janina > -- > Sincerely, Alexander -- Janina Sajka (she/her/hers) https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa