I jut checked to be sure, actually espeakup-0.90 needs espeak-ng not espeak, so building fails if it is not installed. In previous version instead it needed a patch to be built against espeak-ng. This does not chnage the procedure if you build espeakup-0.90. On 28/12/2021 21:15, Didier Spaier wrote: > On 28/12/2021 20:50, Janina Sajka wrote: >> Didier Spaier writes: >>> Hi Janina and all, >>> >>> On 28/12/2021 17:26, Janina Sajka wrote: >>>> ... >>>> >>>> Apparently there must be some kind of reason why Espeakup can't be >>>> agnostic between espeak and espeak-ng? >>> >>> espeakup is linked against the shared library installed at time of building it. >>> >>> Here: >>> dance[~]$ ldd /usr/bin/espeakup | grep libespeak >>> libespeak-ng.so.1 => /usr/lib64/libespeak-ng.so.1 (0x00007f290df83000) >>> >> Thanks, Didier. This does make sense. >> >>> My guess is you will find libespeak.so.1 instead running the same command. >>> >>> So you need to rebuild espeakup-0.90 after having removed espeak and installed >>> espeak-ng only. >>> >> Are you saying I need to run ldd by hand? I thought the installation >> process upgrading from 80 to 90 would take care of the ldd? > > ldd just gives an information about the dependencies. As its man page says: > > ldd prints the shared objects (shared libraries) required by each program or > shared object specified on the command line. > > During the installation process maybe the program in Arch that performs the > installation checks the presence of the required dependency (probably not using > ldd but rather according to the information recorded in some file by the packager). > > If so and if my assumption is correct: > 1) When the packager built espeakup, espeak (not espeak-ng) was installed. > 2) you can check this running the above ldd command > 3) therefore espeakup can't use easpeak-ng, only easpeak. > >> It's true I did not run an ldd when I tried to upgrade my older machine >> to espeak-ng and espeakup-0.90. > > In any case you need to rebuild espeakup-0.90 against espeak-ng. How to do that > in Arch properly is beyond my knowledge. Here "properly" means "in such a way > that the package can be handled by Arch's packages management system". Abyway > the generic steps are: > 1) make sure espeak be not installed. > 2) make sure espeak-ng is installed. > 3) build and install espaekup. > > Oh, and computer programs are not agnostic, in the sense that their dependencies > need to meet some specifications so they can run. > > Human beings can be agnostics, as Didier, but I digress... > > Cheers, > Didier > >> >> Best, >> >> Janina >> >>> It could be possible to just make a symlink instead, but that would ugly. Better >>> just get read of espeak. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Didier >>> >>> >> >