Hi, Karen: I wouldn't expect support for console browsers. It's just far too small a userbase anymore, with far too little interest among developers. Personally, I still use lynx where I can. But I'd be lost on the web without Firefox, Chromium, Safari, etc. Best, Janina Karen Lewellen writes: > Hi janina, > Speaking personally, I quite respect this document. > Still, I am very concerned by the modern solutions stance. > can you articulate how those modern solutions work in the more console > rooted environment of Linux? > Likewise, and again a personal stance, the gap between this kind of research > and the need to obtain a solution to a captcha related barrier, or, as is > the case here, a barrier to a captcha solution can be rather large. > best advice for how to address what hcaptcha is doing specifically? > Thanks, > > > > On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Janina Sajka wrote: > > > Two comments about CAPTCHA taken from the 2019 W3C Technical Note on > > CAPTCHA inaccessibility: > > > > http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest > > > > 1.) It's not just blind people who require consideration, eg. there > > are people with other disabilities that are likely to encounter barriers > > whatever the CAPTCHA approach. > > > > 2.) CAPTCHA must, and can be eliminated with more modern strategies. > > These are also explored in our doc. > > > > Best, > > > > Janina > > > > Glenn K0LNY writes: > > > I don't even know why they offer visual and audio captchas, when I have come > > > across sites that just ask a basic question like: > > > what is five plus seven? > > > Apparently this keeps out computer hacks too. > > > Glenn > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Karen Lewellen" <klewellen@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > To: "Jookia" <contact@xxxxxxxxxx> > > > Cc: "Janina Sajka" <janina@xxxxxxxxxxx>; <speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > > > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2021 8:04 PM > > > Subject: Re: hcaptcha, is A curiosity about multi-user systems? > > > > > > > > > Granted the issues captchas pose are extensive for several populations. > > > still, your idea of changing the user agent, no matter how reasonable, > > > seems to sort of make you a hacker. All the while this service continues > > > to misrepresent what access means, and if their twitter conversations on > > > the topic are any indication, limit access to a very small box. > > > there must be a more direct solution to this situation? > > > Kare > > > > > > > > > > > > On Mon, 1 Mar 2021, Jookia wrote: > > > > > > > When hCaptcha first came out I went on CloudFlare's site and ranted > > > > about how bad the accessibility was for screen readers. They seemed to > > > > have fixed it a bit since then, but I don't think they really test or > > > > put much effort in to it. > > > > > > > > Ultimately CAPTCHAs exclude anyone that is worse off than an AI. I hate > > > > it. > > > > > > > > You could try setting your browser agent to some Windows thing, that > > > > might help. > > > > > > > > Jookia. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Janina Sajka > > https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka > > > > Linux Foundation Fellow > > Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org > > > > The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) > > Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa > > > > > > -- Janina Sajka https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka Linux Foundation Fellow Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
