Hi janina,
Speaking personally, I quite respect this document.
Still, I am very concerned by the modern solutions stance.
can you articulate how those modern solutions work in the more console
rooted environment of Linux?
Likewise, and again a personal stance, the gap between this kind of
research and the need to obtain a solution to a captcha related barrier,
or, as is the case here, a barrier to a captcha solution can be rather
large.
best advice for how to address what hcaptcha is doing specifically?
Thanks,
On Wed, 3 Mar 2021, Janina Sajka wrote:
Two comments about CAPTCHA taken from the 2019 W3C Technical Note on
CAPTCHA inaccessibility:
http://www.w3.org/TR/turingtest
1.) It's not just blind people who require consideration, eg. there
are people with other disabilities that are likely to encounter barriers
whatever the CAPTCHA approach.
2.) CAPTCHA must, and can be eliminated with more modern strategies.
These are also explored in our doc.
Best,
Janina
Glenn K0LNY writes:
I don't even know why they offer visual and audio captchas, when I have come
across sites that just ask a basic question like:
what is five plus seven?
Apparently this keeps out computer hacks too.
Glenn
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Subject: Re: hcaptcha, is A curiosity about multi-user systems?
Granted the issues captchas pose are extensive for several populations.
still, your idea of changing the user agent, no matter how reasonable,
seems to sort of make you a hacker. All the while this service continues
to misrepresent what access means, and if their twitter conversations on
the topic are any indication, limit access to a very small box.
there must be a more direct solution to this situation?
Kare
On Mon, 1 Mar 2021, Jookia wrote:
When hCaptcha first came out I went on CloudFlare's site and ranted
about how bad the accessibility was for screen readers. They seemed to
have fixed it a bit since then, but I don't think they really test or
put much effort in to it.
Ultimately CAPTCHAs exclude anyone that is worse off than an AI. I hate
it.
You could try setting your browser agent to some Windows thing, that
might help.
Jookia.
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Janina Sajka
https://linkedin.com/in/jsajka
Linux Foundation Fellow
Executive Chair, Accessibility Workgroup: http://a11y.org
The World Wide Web Consortium (W3C), Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI)
Co-Chair, Accessible Platform Architectures http://www.w3.org/wai/apa
