Woe! Jupiter is still available? Last time I saw it anywhere, it was a set of kernel modules much like Speakup, although the last time I saw it anywhere was probably about 8 to 10 years ago. Is Jupiter entirely in userspace now, and does it have software speech support, at least via Espeak? Depending on how well it works, it could be great for those people who need text console speech as well as Orca on the graphical desktop. ~Kyle http://kyle.tk/ -- "Kyle? ... She calls her cake, Kyle?" Out of This World, season 2 episode 21 - "The Amazing Evie" _______________________________________________ Speakup mailing list Speakup@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx http://linux-speakup.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/speakup