Re: Odd behavior of a "SAS-2" backplane with SGPIO commands

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On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:14:35PM -0400, Rich wrote:
> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:13 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:07:45PM -0400, Rich wrote:
> >> On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 12:04 PM, Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx> wrote:
> >> > On Mon, Sep 10, 2012 at 06:01:42PM +0200, Emmanuel Florac wrote:
> >> >> Le Mon, 10 Sep 2012 16:47:11 +0300
> >> >> Pasi Kärkkäinen <pasik@xxxxxx> écrivait:
> >> >>
> >> >> > Any replies from Supermicro/LSI ?
> >> >> >
> >> >>
> >> >> Only loosely related, but Supermicro replaced recently my 846E26 (dual
> >> >> expander backplane) with 846E16 (single expander). Apparently they
> >> >> gave up getting the E26 to work properly or something: LSI expander
> >> >> firmware problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> In another (very large scale, high end) setup, many different 60 slots
> >> >> 5 LSI expanders chassis had a general failure of the 5th drawer.
> >> >> Another LSI SAS-2 expander firmware problem.
> >> >>
> >> >> I could start a rant about the evil of proprietary firmware, etc. You
> >> >> get my meaning :)
> >> >>
> >> >
> >> > Yeah, this is a good example why we're trying to get the LEDs working with
> >> > direct attach (non-expander) backplanes :)
> >> >
> >> > -- Pasi
> >> >
> >>
> >> I don't have anything useful for people, other than that they have
> >> shown me an HBA firmware that fixes the LED problem but has other
> >> problems they're still debugging.
> >>
> >> So there does exist code for this firmware which will fix this problem.
> >>
> >
> > That's good to know! Let's hope the fix ends up in an official
> > LSI HBA firmware update in not-so-distant future.
> >
> >> [I don't disagree on the evils of proprietary firmware, but this is
> >> the hand I've been dealt, so.]
> >>
> >
> > Yeah, there's still the proprietary LSI HBA firmware, but at least using
> > direct-attach backplanes has one less :)
> >
> > Thanks!
> >
> > -- Pasi
> 
> Actually, the direct-attach backplanes have 3 "passive" AMI management
> controller chips...which also, presumably, have embedded mutable
> firmware.
> 

Yeah, true, but the "passive" management chips are not part of the SAS datapath? 
They're only communicating to the SAS HBA using the sideband signals/pins,
and controlling the LEDs on the backplane? 

-- Pasi

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