Re: [decode-dimms] Crucial Ballistix BLS2K16G4D30AESB, cannot decode / understand timings

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On 2019-04-16 22:47, Jean Delvare wrote:
> Hi Peter,
> 
> On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 19:45:10 +0000, Peter Rosin wrote:
>> If there is some other device responding to 0x36/0x37, then it didn't
>> respond in the first (elided) dump with no ee1004 driver bound. So, that
>> seems unlikely. No?
>>
>> For reference the elided dump I referred to was:
>>
>>> [root:/sys/bus/i2c/devices] # i2cdetect 2
>>> WARNING! This program can confuse your I2C bus, cause data loss and worse!
>>> I will probe file /dev/i2c-2.
>>> I will probe address range 0x03-0x77.
>>> Continue? [Y/n] y
>>>      0  1  2  3  4  5  6  7  8  9  a  b  c  d  e  f
>>> 00:          -- -- -- -- -- 08 -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 10: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 18 -- 1a -- -- -- -- --
>>> 20: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 30: 30 31 -- -- 34 35 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 40: -- -- -- -- 44 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 50: 50 -- 52 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 60: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --
>>> 70: -- -- -- -- -- -- -- --  
>>
>> But why is there no response for those addresses when there is no
>> driver bound? Will they only ack writes or something? I don't know
>> anything about these DDR4 SPDs...
> 
> For range 0x30-0x37, i2cdetect uses read commands for probing.
> 0x37 is a write-only address for the EE1004 standard, so it doesn't
> have to ack reads. 0x36 is special, as a read command it returns the
> currently selected page, but uses the ack to answer (page 0 or page 1)
> instead of acking and answering in an actual payload. If you ask me it
> is VERY BAD design, and it is very sad that whoever came up with that
> part of the EE1004 standard had too little experience to realize that
> saving a few bytes for this command was really not worth the clumsy
> design. The ack bit has a meaning and should never be abused like that.

Sigh, designers who think they are "creative" are a nuisance. Or worse.
Anyway, thanks for the background!

Cheers,
Peter




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