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Perhaps to make progress, work towards a distilled list of questions (including those that have not been answered) could be generated. Answering many of the questions asked could be helpful in determining next steps and a way forward. I am not volunteering to generate that list, but I would appreciate an organized review with lessons learned as processes are possibly redesigned.
Best regards,
Kathleen
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 11:24 AM Mary B <mary.h.barnes@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 9:02 AM Richard Barnes <rlb@xxxxxx> wrote:On Wed, Jul 3, 2019 at 10:00 AM Russ Housley <housley@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
--On Tuesday, July 2, 2019 20:44 -0400 Alissa Cooper <alissa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> Hi Mike,
>
> As I mentioned to you off-list, your request below for Ben to
> use his inside voice is demeaning, unprofessional language
> that is not suitable for the IETF discussion list, per RFC
> 3005. Repeated use of unprofessional language may be deterring
> others from voicing their opinion for fear of being
> disrespected. It is important that everyone in the community
> feels comfortable enough to express their own views on the
> IETF discussion list if they choose to do so.
> ...
Alissa:
Mike has raised some topics that need discussion, but the tone does worry me. I believe the tone is keeping others from voicing their opinion, and that it is important that everyone feel comfortable enough to express their own view on this list.+1None of the issues John raises (even if I agreed with them) would excuse Mike's tone.[MB] The tones went both ways. It was NOT just Mike. Indeed, his response that likely was the one that caused some initial concern was in response to Adam, whose response was quite snarky and flippant IMHO. [/MB]--Richard
Best regards,
Kathleen
