On 3/24/19 6:45 AM, Eric Burger wrote: > So, to be a ‘full’ IETF participant, including governance, costs > substantially more than some other SDO’s (wonder why IETF lost CTI > work?), but substantially less than the ITU-T (wonder why ITU-t has > totally lost out on Internet standards?). Well, wait a minute. Attending meetings for these other SDOs also involves travel costs, lodging, etc. > As for “participation in the IETF is free,” it is the same kind of > free as open source software is free. Sure, you can download a copy > of Linux for free. However, if you want support, it costs 2-10x what > some of the proprietary operating systems cost per copy. So much for > ‘free’! It costs time, if nothing else, and that's not free. But I do know people who've been productive contributors who never participate in meetings. I don't think that nomcom eligibility determines who is a "full" IETF participant and I'm rather unhappy about seeing it slowly transitioned into a proxy for membership. Melinda