Of course, we know we can trust Mirja and Lars. It's not about impartiality, it's about the appearance of impartiality. SM is right, that we've been here before. No one died. Alia and I sent a similar mail way back in February 2014. You can probably find it in the archives. At that time, we opted to completely micro-manage ourselves by writing details designed to cover every eventuality. I think that Mirja and Lars have opted for fewer words, but the message is the same. It'll all work out fine. Adrian -----Original Message----- From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of S Moonesamy Sent: 15 March 2019 15:43 To: iesg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx Cc: Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: Change of Affiliation Dear IESG, At 05:40 AM 13-03-2019, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote: >documents is one of the main drivers or contributors in these >groups. A situation where at least one author and the responsible AD >have the same affiliation is less rare and usually not necessarily >seen as a conflict of interest, as least for wg documents where >other individuals have been involved in the process and consensus >was built by the whole group. However, whenever we get into a >situation where a potential conflict or bias could be assumed, we >will ask for the help of other members in the IESG, e.g. by >shepherding a conflicted document by another AD outside the >transport area if necessary. Still, if you think there is a conflict >or bias that we overlook or are not handling appropriately, please >talk with us, the rest of the IESG, or, >alternatively, the IETF chair and we will handle this carefully. There can be potential impartiality issues when an author and the Responsible Area Director share the same affiliation. There is a thread in the mailing list archives about that topic. Regards, S. Moonesamy
