On Fri, Mar 15, 2019 at 12:28 PM Adrian Farrel <adrian@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > SM is right, that we've been here before. No one died. > > Alia and I sent a similar mail way back in February 2014. You can probably > find it in the archives. At that time, we opted to completely micro-manage > ourselves by writing details designed to cover every eventuality. See https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/H-_4fo37bnqqzu9KAle2zKmQZNk%3D/ Thanks, Donald =============================== Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) 1424 Pro Shop Court, Davenport, FL 33896 USA d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx > I think that Mirja and Lars have opted for fewer words, but the message is > the same. > > It'll all work out fine. > > Adrian > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> On Behalf Of S Moonesamy > Sent: 15 March 2019 15:43 > To: iesg@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; ietf@xxxxxxxx > Cc: Mirja Kuehlewind <ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: Change of Affiliation > > Dear IESG, > At 05:40 AM 13-03-2019, Mirja Kuehlewind wrote: > >documents is one of the main drivers or contributors in these > >groups. A situation where at least one author and the responsible AD > >have the same affiliation is less rare and usually not necessarily > >seen as a conflict of interest, as least for wg documents where > >other individuals have been involved in the process and consensus > >was built by the whole group. However, whenever we get into a > >situation where a potential conflict or bias could be assumed, we > >will ask for the help of other members in the IESG, e.g. by > >shepherding a conflicted document by another AD outside the > >transport area if necessary. Still, if you think there is a conflict > >or bias that we overlook or are not handling appropriately, please > >talk with us, the rest of the IESG, or, > >alternatively, the IETF chair and we will handle this carefully. > > There can be potential impartiality issues when an author and the > Responsible Area Director share the same affiliation. There is a > thread in the mailing list archives about that topic. > > Regards, > S. Moonesamy >