On Thu, Nov 8, 2018 at 9:33 AM John C Klensin <john@xxxxxxx> wrote:
--On Thursday, November 8, 2018 15:11 +0700 Yoav Nir
<ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:49, Patrik Fältström
>> <paf=40frobbit.se@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>...
> People often come to the IETF to get their document rubber
> stamped. They often get a rude awakening.
While I agree that Jabber/XMPP was largely a success case, I
would have said that most such efforts don't get rude awakenings
nearly often enough :-(
[MB] That awakening was overly rude, if you recall. It went well beyond letting them know how things are done at IETF. [/MB]
john
