--On Thursday, November 8, 2018 15:11 +0700 Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> On 8 Nov 2018, at 14:49, Patrik Fältström >> <paf=40frobbit.se@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >... > People often come to the IETF to get their document rubber > stamped. They often get a rude awakening. While I agree that Jabber/XMPP was largely a success case, I would have said that most such efforts don't get rude awakenings nearly often enough :-( john
