--On Friday, September 28, 2018 14:15 -0400 Alissa Cooper <alissa@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> How is country of origin determined? I'm guessing it has to >> be by the authors' addresses on their RFCs. > > Yes, I believe. That is why I think "country of residence" > is the better approximate descriptor. Noting that a significant number of RFCs and I-Ds seem to be published these days with no author "address" information other than an email address (especially because many email addresses these day give no information about country locations at all), is that information only about people who volunteer country information? Would you and the IESG recommend that the RFC Editor tighten up enforcement of what was historically a rule requiring at least some location-related information? That said, as Eliot and others have argued, what we really need is diversity of perspectives. Some of the discussion seems to be trending toward diversity among those factors that can easily be measured and assessed quantitatively. I suggest that the latter cluster of attributes are not a good surrogate for the former. If we think it is appropriately applied to the IETF, Kevin's observation about "being open to help from all walks of life" my be especially interesting in this regard because, for example, there may be fewer differences along a variety of scales among people who are practicing Internet engineering as a professional career than between most of them and what would be called, statistically, the general population. In some respects, that may be another problem -- I've heard the argument that, to succeed in engineering fields, women need to behave more like men. Having not had the experience, I don't know whether that is true. I've fairly sure that, as requirements go, it is undesirable to interpret "try to be sure there are women" into "it is ok to satisfy that criterion exclusively with women who have behaved "like men" (whatever that means) all of their careers. best, john
