Hi Nico, > On Sep 28, 2018, at 12:05 PM, Nico Williams <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 09:01:44AM -0400, Alissa Cooper wrote: >>> On Sep 27, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Nico Williams <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> Has the Internet Society/IAOC/IAB/IESG/IRTF/IETF studied the diversity >>> of these communities? Have there been surveys or censuses of IETF >>> participants? Have we identified specific axes of diversity where we're >>> coming up short? How are such things being measured? Is there an RFC >>> setting out yardsticks for measuring IETF diversity? How do we measure >>> the diversity of remote-only participants? Is there any data available >>> on these matters? >> >> Since a couple of people have asked about what data we have: At >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/ you can find statistics about >> document authorship broken down by the author’s country, continent, >> and affiliation and meeting attendance broken down by attendee’s >> country and continent residence. The statistics included in the >> datatracker are based on the requirements published in RFC 7760. >> Attendance by country of residence is also reported at every IETF >> plenary. See, e.g., slide 10 at >> https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-ietf-sessb-ietf-101-plenary-chair-slides-00 > > Thanks. > > How is country of origin determined? I'm guessing it has to be by the > authors' addresses on their RFCs. Yes, I believe. That is why I think “country of residence” is the better approximate descriptor. > But that says very little about their > country of origin. Names say nothing about that (or anything else) as > well. > >> We collect optional gender information on our meeting registration >> form. We have not been publishing these statistics as far as I know, >> but the secretariat has been working on a broader overall statistics >> dashboard where this could be included, or we could potentially fold >> it into the datatracker statistics and/or the plenary slides. From >> IETF 87-101, the response rate on the meeting registration gender >> question averaged 90% — that is, on average 90% of those who >> registered for the meeting chose to answer it. On average for those >> meetings, 89% of respondents were male and 11% of respondents were >> female. The total number of respondents averaged 1,094 across those >> meetings. > > This, on the other hand, seems like very reliable data. Thanks. > >> As of IETF 102 we changed the way the question about gender was >> phrased on the registration form to be more neutral, which resulted in >> a significantly lower response rate. Alexa and I have been thinking >> through the implications of this and trying to figure out if there are >> further changes we might try to make there. > > What is the exact question now? There is now a free-form field only with no labeled radio buttons. See https://www.ietf.org/registration/ietf103/ietfreg.py Alissa > >> All of the above obviously represents a rather limited universe of >> data to evaluate the diversity of the IETF participant base, but it is >> what we have now AFAIK. > > I agree that it is limited. > > Thanks, > > Nico > --
