On Fri, Sep 28, 2018 at 09:01:44AM -0400, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > On Sep 27, 2018, at 6:56 PM, Nico Williams <nico@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Has the Internet Society/IAOC/IAB/IESG/IRTF/IETF studied the diversity > > of these communities? Have there been surveys or censuses of IETF > > participants? Have we identified specific axes of diversity where we're > > coming up short? How are such things being measured? Is there an RFC > > setting out yardsticks for measuring IETF diversity? How do we measure > > the diversity of remote-only participants? Is there any data available > > on these matters? > > Since a couple of people have asked about what data we have: At > https://datatracker.ietf.org/stats/ you can find statistics about > document authorship broken down by the author’s country, continent, > and affiliation and meeting attendance broken down by attendee’s > country and continent residence. The statistics included in the > datatracker are based on the requirements published in RFC 7760. > Attendance by country of residence is also reported at every IETF > plenary. See, e.g., slide 10 at > https://datatracker.ietf.org/meeting/101/materials/slides-101-ietf-sessb-ietf-101-plenary-chair-slides-00 Thanks. How is country of origin determined? I'm guessing it has to be by the authors' addresses on their RFCs. But that says very little about their country of origin. Names say nothing about that (or anything else) as well. > We collect optional gender information on our meeting registration > form. We have not been publishing these statistics as far as I know, > but the secretariat has been working on a broader overall statistics > dashboard where this could be included, or we could potentially fold > it into the datatracker statistics and/or the plenary slides. From > IETF 87-101, the response rate on the meeting registration gender > question averaged 90% — that is, on average 90% of those who > registered for the meeting chose to answer it. On average for those > meetings, 89% of respondents were male and 11% of respondents were > female. The total number of respondents averaged 1,094 across those > meetings. This, on the other hand, seems like very reliable data. Thanks. > As of IETF 102 we changed the way the question about gender was > phrased on the registration form to be more neutral, which resulted in > a significantly lower response rate. Alexa and I have been thinking > through the implications of this and trying to figure out if there are > further changes we might try to make there. What is the exact question now? > All of the above obviously represents a rather limited universe of > data to evaluate the diversity of the IETF participant base, but it is > what we have now AFAIK. I agree that it is limited. Thanks, Nico --
