Hi Paul.
I think the policy as stated is actually intended to conform to the cases as you state them.
Specifically, it says:
"
Any photographer engaged on behalf of the IETF should not photograph individuals
displaying the "do-not-photograph" label, should make reasonable
efforts to avoid photographing small groups with one or more members
displaying the label, and should not publish small group photographs
with such individuals in them. Photographs of large groups may contain
incidental images of such individuals and we will not attempt to
redact those. Specifically, photographs of panels and the like (e.g.,
the IESG/IAB plenary) are expected to contain all individuals
regardless of labelling."
This norm is intended to apply to individual photographers as well, so if you took
a picture of a large room and there were people with red (or whatever) lanyards
on, that happens, but if you take a picture of a small number of people and one
has a red lanyard on, then that's less OK.
-Ekr
On Fri, Mar 2, 2018 at 7:33 AM, Paul Hoffman <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx> wrote:
Mixing human labelling and a asking for people to respect the labels is doomed to protocol failure.
If I'm at the front of the room taking a picture to show how crowded it is, I will likely be taking a picture of someone with a label on. There is no way I can respect their wishes.
If I am wearing a label and I see someone taking a picture that might include me, I get confirmation that the label was useless.
There is no way for someone's legitimate desire not to be photographed when 90% of the crowd has cameras in their pockets and maybe half of them are excited that they are somewhere pretty, or in a room with lots of people with whom they share an interest.
It is perfectly reasonable to have a policy that asks for respect when taking photos primarily of individuals, and to have a policy against photographing the room for people with their hands up (or not up).
(I say this as someone who doesn't like to be photographed in general.)
--Paul hoffman
