Hiya, On 11/04/16 23:34, Rich Kulawiec wrote: > > What I'm hearing is a lot of we've-always-done-it-this-way. Well, > that's not working very well except for the privileged elite few > (most of whom are backed by corporations). And I understand > that those with plenty of money and time and freedom have gotten > comfortable with how-things-are-done. It's an easy thing to do, > I've done it myself. But it doesn't serve the long-term interests > of the IETF or the Internet well. FWIW, I think you're getting a few years ahead of reality there, but eventually reality will catch up with you. I'm not sure when I'd predict may happen, maybe in the next 5-10 years would be my current guess. But maybe I'm wrong - can you send details of how an approx. 1000 person virtual meeting where everyone could provide real input has been held by anyone? I'm unaware of such but I'd be very interested if that had happened already. Even if we're only in the realms of speculation, that could still be useful speculation, so I'd encourage you to write down your ideas as to how that could work, in an I-D. (Or however you prefer to document stuff.) And of course, that "that" that has to work need not involve simultaneous participation by 1000 people from all over the world within any one or a few hours. However, it does need to involve that large a set with some practical method for cross-pollination and for people to establish working personal relationships with one another. In summary, I do think we'll get figure out ways to cut out most of the travel in future, but I figure we're just not there yet, and I don't see how we establish the interpersonal relationships if we do end up with a purist non-travel scenario. But that said, I do agree that our current expensive-travel approach definitely does favour the well financially endowed, which currently includes me (surprisingly, to me;-) Cheers, S.
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