On Mon, Apr 11, 2016 at 6:46 AM, <chopps@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > It's certainly relevant to me, b/c I don't personally think that IETF > meetings should be held in oppressive and censoring countries. I don't > know how to articulate this well -- others are better at it -- but I > certainly would like to skip any meetings that I feel violate IETFs > value of openness so that I can at least vote with my feet and my > dollars. Well how does this work with Internet's (and IETF's) mission of inclusiveness. Applying the same scale of "oppressiveness", I am sure large parts of the world think the same about the US/UK which has waged wars in Iraq, Afghanistan, Vietnam, Syria, Argentina (our latest venue) and elsewhere. The IETF doesn't seem to have a problem having meetings in these countries. I hope the majority of participants on this list realise that they are viewing the world through a western prism. The notion of punishing the general populace for the mistakes of their elected and unelected govt. seems wrong to me. Many times, the general populace of the country is fighting their govt. through the Internet. eg. Turkey. -- Vinayak