--On Saturday, March 14, 2015 12:07 -0700 joel jaeggli <joelja@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> First, we've had no previous experience with the "recall >> process". The example I assure you are referring to was one >> in which commitments to sign had been collected and it was >> clear that the recall process would be initiated if the >> individual involved did not resign, but he did. > > You are incorrect, the process was initiated. > > http://www.ietf.org/mail-archive/web/ietf-announce/current/msg > 10887.html > > It was not necessary for it to run to completion. You are correct. My apologies. It was, as I think you pointed out, never fully initiated to remove someone for bad behavior or malfeasance. The main point of my note, however, remains that the recall process --at least past the point of the Secretariat approving petitions and announcing the petition and signer-- is inconsistent with claims of confidentiality. john