Sam, Cutting to the 2nd item, i.e., what effect the ombudsteam might have on leadership. I understand your concern Sam. Do you have a suggestion on how that should be addressed? As an aside, I think we all agree that leadership that misbehaves needs to be removed. The debate is about the mechanics - whether those indirect through effects of action from the ombudsteam, indirect via their recommendation, or more direct. jari
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