On unhelpful draft names that are hard to identify draft-farrelll-mpls-opportunistic-encrypt should clearly have been called draft-farrelly-brothers-mpls... Lloyd Wood http://about.me/lloydwood mpls encryption? I mean, dumb and dumberererer, right? ________________________________________ From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, 10 March 2015 5:38:35 PM To: Brian E Carpenter Cc: IETF Discussion Subject: Re: Unhelpful draft names >> As Yoav mentioned, the authors are new attendees, and the work is targeted >> to an IRTF group at that. I have an acquaintance with them and hope they >> aren't reading this, but how do folks think this outcry about seems as a >> welcome to do work here? > > I worried about that before sending my note, but decided that an > invented example was not persuausive. If there's a fault, it's "ours" > for not making the convention a bit more apparent to newcomers. That's > what needs fixing. i would mention being liberal in what you receive. but, as a staunch naggumite, i do not believe that is wise in protocol code. but this ain't code. and i think you were a co-author of the first or second draft-ymbk-... (it's an old joke. when megan asked us to insert the organisation name, jon said "you must be kidding." so i used that.) randy