Perhaps dropping the idea of imposing a fee for remote participants might help? Or not imposing a fee for non-financed individual participants? Or not imposing a fee for participants from MICs and LICs? The thread topic might provide hints, Donald. I hate to note it, but one of the few on-topic discussions on this list quickly degenerated into meaningless puns and banter. Is there anything positive that's come out of this list? That's a genuine question, not a rhetorical device. On 1 March 2015 4:26:42 pm GMT+01:00, Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >On Sat, Feb 28, 2015 at 9:13 PM, Pranesh Prakash ><pranesh@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> [2015-02-28 21:07:56 -0500]: >>> >>> So, if you prefer to say that I'm still not acting "in my personal >>> capacity", very well; but I'd like to know what the difference is >(in >>> operationalized terms, please). >> >> As you seem to have noted, I believe funding to take part in IETF >> proceedings (and physical meetings) is the key. >> >> Not because it "influences" the views you put forward at the IETF. >(It may >> or may not do so.) >> >> But because it enables you to participate more steadily in the IETF >than >> someone who is not similarly funded. That ability to participate has >all >> manners of implications, including the ability to be chair of WGs, >etc. > >Your position seems to be that persons with more resources can, if >they choose to use those resources, have more influence than those >with less resources. So what is your proposed solutions? That the IETF >should impose a world-wide re-distributive tax scheme so that everyone >in the world has the same resources at their dispose? I would question >the practicality of that. > >Thanks, >Donald >============================= > Donald E. Eastlake 3rd +1-508-333-2270 (cell) > 155 Beaver Street, Milford, MA 01757 USA > d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx > >> -- >> Pranesh Prakash >> Policy Director, Centre for Internet and Society >> T: +91 80 40926283 | W: http://cis-india.org >> Twitter: https://twitter.com/pranesh_prakash >> -- Sent from my Android device with K-9 Mail. Please excuse my brevity.