Same here, I participated in Inet'91 in Denmark when conversations about ISOC were taking place, joined as individual member in 1992, and was the founder of the Argentinean ISOC-AR Chapter in 1995. My head hurts as well since I agree with you that ISOC since the beginning has been inclusive of all sectors and I truly didn't know that some Civil Society groups have a different view and opinion. Do you think this view from certain groups is widespread or it is just a minority ? -Jorge > On Nov 20, 2013, at 1:11 PM, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 21/11/2013 00:13, Jorge Amodio wrote: >> Thanks SM, very clear about ITU. >> >> I really had a different perception about ISOC that's why I was asking, >> didn't know that Civil Society does not feel comfortable with ISOC. > > That statement makes my head hurt. Any time I attended meetings at the ITU > under the ISOC banner, I had to sit in the cheap seats at the back labelled > "Civil Society". > > I remind you that ISOC has both organisational and individual members, > and many local chapters. Sure sounds like Civil Society to me. There may > be special interest groups, also part of Civil Society, who have different > views to ISOC, of course. > > Brian (individual member of ISOC since 1992)