It is very confusing and I'm still trying to understand why this "dialog" can't take place under the umbrella of organizations like ISOC. Feels like and effort from ICANN + others to reinvent themselves. -Jorge > On Nov 19, 2013, at 5:46 PM, Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > yup. thanks for that. > > for us geeks in the bleachers, could someone compare/contrast 1net with > igf? > > randy