> Pete, I like your position, but I believe "go read the archive" or the > equivalent will continue to be a standard response unless someone is > responsible for giving a more thorough response. Who do you think that > should be? If you've had the most fleeting look at this: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-leiba-extended-doc-shepherd/ ... then you'll know what *my* answer to that question is. Happily, this document has an excellent shepherd (see the Most Excellent(tm) shepherd report: https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-spfbis-4408bis/shepherdwriteup/ ), who has been posting summaries and pointers throughout the conversation. Perhaps said shepherd could give even better pointers; if so, a quiet message to him asking for specifics would surely be met with cheerful diligence. Barry