Re: procedural question with remote participation

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At 13:10 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
OK, I'll bite. Why do you and Michael believe you need to have the slides 1 week in advance?

One generation's bad behavior becomes the next generation's best practice. It would be appreciated if those slides could be made available in advance.

You have the agenda and drafts 2 weeks in advance. The slides aren't normative. Even

I do not have the agenda two weeks in advance.

Nowadays, there are "if time permits" slots in addition to A.O.B.

What is the meaning of "normative" in the above?

If you need to have them on the website 7 days in advance, you really need to get a faster Internet connection. ;)

Ok. :-)

At 14:27 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
What *would* be good to have 7 days or more in advance are the Technical and O&A Plenary slides. They shouldn't be changing, afaict. And that way we can figure out if we can have those nights free for other things, or if it's worth going to the Plenaries instead. But I assume those slides already are made available well in advance. (right?)

The Technical and other Plenary slides are not made available well in advance. Someone asked the following question:

  "Does she have a clue that she just asked for feedback from an audience
   that can't see the link she put on the screen?"

There was a discussion about beer from the tap after that. Please open a new thread if you would like to discuss about that. :-)

At 15:21 04-08-2013, Stephen Farrell wrote:
And only something potentially disastrous ought imply even considering
a zero-tolerance anything in a volunteer organisation.

It is after all a volunteer organisation. I hope that people were not surprised that I did not ask for the Spice Girls session to be cancelled.

At 15:41 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
Do you find this is an actual problem in WG meetings? Are the jabber scribes not able to tell you who is at the mic if you ask them? People have forgotten to state their names

Some of the Jabber scribes are not able to tell me who are at the microphone when I ask them. If it was my decision to make (and it is not), the Jabber scribe would be allowed to comment at the microphone even after the microphone line is capped. A person can always argue that it is an arbitrary decision. :-)

As an off-topic comment, it's not because the Meetecho people are nice that one should expect them to act as Jabber scribes.

At 18:36 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
But for the general case, the truth is that Fuyou Maio is right - you really do need to be able to parse English quickly to truly participate effectively in an IETF physical meeting. And you need to be reasonably swift in either reading it, or following the speaker's words. It's not nice to say, but it's the truth. Real-time direct human communication is why we have the physical meetings to begin with, instead of only mailing lists and virtual meetings. (and for cross-wg-pollination, and for cookies)

Yes.

Some sessions are easy to follow. For example, I read some slides posted a few days before and I had an idea of what would be discussed. I looked for the slides for a BoF as it was not clear to me what one of these items on the agenda was about. The slides were not available. I didn't bother asking about them. The correct question would have been about the item on the agenda instead of the slides.

Regards,
-sm




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