At 13:10 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
OK, I'll bite. Why do you and Michael believe you need to have the
slides 1 week in advance?
One generation's bad behavior becomes the next generation's best
practice. It would be appreciated if those slides could be made
available in advance.
You have the agenda and drafts 2 weeks in advance. The slides
aren't normative. Even
I do not have the agenda two weeks in advance.
Nowadays, there are "if time permits" slots in addition to A.O.B.
What is the meaning of "normative" in the above?
If you need to have them on the website 7 days in advance, you
really need to get a faster Internet connection. ;)
Ok. :-)
At 14:27 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
What *would* be good to have 7 days or more in advance are the
Technical and O&A Plenary slides. They shouldn't be changing,
afaict. And that way we can figure out if we can have those nights
free for other things, or if it's worth going to the Plenaries
instead. But I assume those slides already are made available well
in advance. (right?)
The Technical and other Plenary slides are not made available well in
advance. Someone asked the following question:
"Does she have a clue that she just asked for feedback from an audience
that can't see the link she put on the screen?"
There was a discussion about beer from the tap after that. Please
open a new thread if you would like to discuss about that. :-)
At 15:21 04-08-2013, Stephen Farrell wrote:
And only something potentially disastrous ought imply even considering
a zero-tolerance anything in a volunteer organisation.
It is after all a volunteer organisation. I hope that people were
not surprised that I did not ask for the Spice Girls session to be cancelled.
At 15:41 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
Do you find this is an actual problem in WG meetings? Are the
jabber scribes not able to tell you who is at the mic if you ask
them? People have forgotten to state their names
Some of the Jabber scribes are not able to tell me who are at the
microphone when I ask them. If it was my decision to make (and it is
not), the Jabber scribe would be allowed to comment at the microphone
even after the microphone line is capped. A person can always argue
that it is an arbitrary decision. :-)
As an off-topic comment, it's not because the Meetecho people are
nice that one should expect them to act as Jabber scribes.
At 18:36 04-08-2013, Hadriel Kaplan wrote:
But for the general case, the truth is that Fuyou Maio is right -
you really do need to be able to parse English quickly to truly
participate effectively in an IETF physical meeting. And you need
to be reasonably swift in either reading it, or following the
speaker's words. It's not nice to
say, but it's the truth. Real-time direct human communication is
why we have the physical meetings to begin with, instead of only
mailing lists and virtual meetings. (and for cross-wg-pollination,
and for cookies)
Yes.
Some sessions are easy to follow. For example, I read some slides
posted a few days before and I had an idea of what would be
discussed. I looked for the slides for a BoF as it was not clear to
me what one of these items on the agenda was about. The slides were
not available. I didn't bother asking about them. The correct
question would have been about the item on the agenda instead of the slides.
Regards,
-sm